CSS3 Fonts Module briefing/dialogue pre-TypeCon

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I'll point them over here.

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I'll come down on Wednesday to join the fun. :)
Looking forward to it.

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Unfortunately no TypeCon/ATypI for me, as curious as I am to see type on Kindle.

sii -- hand-built, custom fonts and font-hinting

Interesting. I am curious for details too.
As regards the hand-built, custom fonts and font-hinting, I assume that PDFs which come with their own fonts are a another story though.
(Hand-built is lovely. I don't know of any font that is not hand-built.)  :)

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> PDFs which come with their own fonts are a another story though.

Well, any type that can be rendered at a predictable PPEM can be "hand-made" (more below) and Kindle has a -very useful- "Actual Size" zoom level, so...

> I don't know of any font that is not hand-built.

:-)
Of course you're right, but the fact that an outline is only ever merely a "request", with software deciding what bitmap the viewer actually sees... It is only when you directly control the pixels* that what the viewer sees is truly hand-made.

* At least to their maximum technical potential - nobody is going to be able to design for the organic blobs that make up a Kindle screen deep down.

hhp

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@KL: The Kindle renders the embedded fonts in PDFs at the appropriate size, yes.

@Hrant: I am pretty sure they did not do the new fonts in-house.

Cheers,

T

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I think this was a great success. Thanks to Johns D and H for the time and effort they put into it. I'm sure it was a bit deep into the weeds for some, but it was great to have everyone in the same room to discuss it.

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Will there be a summary (in case that the discussion has lead to anything new)?

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I've posted the slides from Wednesday's CSS3 Fonts discussion at Typecon. Dave Crossland also posted a nice summary with commentary on his blog. Others with comments and/or feedback are welcome to send me mail directly, there's a link to my email listed on the spec.

Many thanks again for Christopher Slye and John Hudson for helping set this up.

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Many thanks!

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I too would like thank the John D & H for putting this session together, and Dave for taking such copious notes. Have a great rest-o-'con and by the time everyone gets back to their own desks, I'll still be at mine, addressing the pop-corning issues we have discovered by actually doing it.

Cheers!

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Closing the loop the Kindle. From Monotype Imaging's most recent earnings call...

“We continue to be encouraged by the opportunities we see in e-book readers. As the importance of easy to read text continues to be endorsed. Last month, Consumer Report gave its top rating to the Amazon Kindle, which uses our font solution. Readability was a key factor in the evaluation with the Kindle being recognized for its crisp readable text.”

MTI confirmed that they've not made any additional technical details public at this time.

Cheers, Si

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Thanks Simon.

hhp