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Joined accents?
Do you know any good sans fonts where the all the caps accents are connected with the "base glyph"? Like in many fonts, the Å is A and ° joined together (Interstate for example). Are joined accents as a design feature considered as a generally bad idea? Why so?
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10 Sep 2010 — 9:03am
well, it's considered "bad idea", cause joing the accents to the letter might suggest a special glyph/character on it's own. Many headline faces had the accents tightly close to the letters but still not jointed (if i'm not mistaken).
In the case of the uppercase A with a ring (Å) - it IS actually a character on it's own, so is considered acceptable to be jointed.
10 Sep 2010 — 9:35am
I’ve heard several scandinavian actually complaining about joined A-ring.
Also, past acute and breve, if you start joining circumflexes, macrons and umlauts, you’re likely to end up with something ugly and/or unrecognisable.
13 Sep 2010 — 4:03am
Hmm. I'm scandinavian myself and A-ring doesn't bother me. Maybe in text fonts i could see that as a problem. How about joined accents in display fonts? Anyone?
I see no fundamental problem with joined accents as long as one can recognize the intended letter. I'm just curious if anyone has succeeded at that.
13 Sep 2010 — 5:21am
Some examples:
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/pampatype/margarita/
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/font-fabric/avatar/
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/facetype/motto/
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/paratype/tauern/tauern/
You be the judge on how successful they are.
15 Sep 2010 — 4:13am
Thanks for the examples! Fair enough, not much success there. I guess this is something that can be developed further in my future projects.
15 Sep 2010 — 8:08am
http://diacritics.typo.cz/view_image.php?id=49
15 Sep 2010 — 8:16am
I've seen a lot of joined accents on capitals, in Polish.
Greetings cards, posters, that sort of thing.
Here's "S acute":
(As Polish has no grave accents, there's no great reason to have a slanted accent, other than chirography.)
15 Sep 2010 — 8:32am
Dammit nick, now you’ve made me want to add another character to my encoding for the upright Polish acute.
15 Sep 2010 — 9:03am
>>there's no great reason to have a slanted accent, other than chirography.<<
except also that the kreska is typically more upright than acute.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/kreska.html
15 Sep 2010 — 9:29am
But it still leans, because it's more comfortable for a right-handed writer to make it as a diagonal flick, rather than a vertical mark.
At least, that's my theory.
Hungarian is another language with no grave accents, but all the "tick" accents are acutely slanted.
15 Sep 2010 — 1:20pm
The hardest thing for anyone to do while writing quickly is to make a perfectly vertical mark, even if they intend to.