Shape "correction" experiment
This is an experiment to see how your brain works.
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Please fix the shape below:
To forestall the power of suggestion, please prepare your corrected shape before Saturday, November the 20th, and submit it to this thread after Sunday, November the 21st. Your time zone.
Note:
This is not a test - you cannot fail. On the other hand, incriminating aspects of your psyche might very well be revealed. :->
Repeat:
Do not show any work before the end of your 21st (not even if it's just a joke). Thank you.
hhp





















25.Nov.2004 11.47am
Did this die?
25.Nov.2004 12.16pm
Looks like it.
Maybe it was too ambitious. Should I bother trying a more "primitive" starting shape?
The point of this of course is to see how designers "regularize" shapes.
hhp
25.Nov.2004 6.29pm
Maybe people didn't respond because they didn't think anything useful could be determined by the exercise, or because they thought you had pre-determined that designers would regularise the shape. I also suspect that most designers associate fixing something or making something correct relative to a brief, so presenting them with a shape without any context of what it is for isn't likely to garner a response. The trick would be to come up with a context that would not overly determine how the designer would respond, but that seems to me very difficult.
25.Nov.2004 6.31pm
Also, an EPS outline would be easier to work with than a bitmap image.
25.Nov.2004 9.50pm
Sure it could turn out to be a pointless waste, but let's have some faith in experimentation, come on. And although I doubt much could be "determined", it might very well get quite interesting, no?
> they thought you had pre-determined that
> designers would regularise the shape.
Actually I had this idea that somebody might just re-post what I showed, in effect saying "it's fine as it is"!
I tried to be as non-guiding as possible. This is why I avoided a "brief" (normally very relevant, I agree) and why I didn't give actual ouline data (too "explicit").
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Not sure which direction to take it from here - suggestions welcome!
hhp
25.Nov.2004 10.14pm
I forgot to post it. But this is what I figured out.

25.Nov.2004 10.25pm
:->
hhp
26.Nov.2004 2.35am
First I wanted to correct to a sideways military hat, then I wanted to correct to a bottle.

26.Nov.2004 7.00am
H
26.Nov.2004 7.04am
Correction via regulation. (Sort of fits with David's military hat, actually...)

26.Nov.2004 7.17am
Corrected version:
26.Nov.2004 8.59am
Very funny. No, I mean it!
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OK, David's second one is the type of thing that I at least was imagining.
He's not that abnormal, so I think the rest of you can come up with stuff too, eh?
hhp
26.Nov.2004 12.04pm
I'd have to start with one of these
Closely followed by
I think we naturally try to impose some order or symmetry to things that we don't recognise
26.Nov.2004 12.22pm
OK, cool.
Questions about your righthand one:
1) Why not integrate the top rectangle with the body better?
2) Why not make the very bottom a full arc of a circle?
I guess #1 applies to your lefthand one too, and would extend to wondering why you didn't make the joins at the "feet" smooth, or something.
(I hope you guys appreciate all the "possibilities" I carefully built into my source shape. Sheesh.)
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BTW, it's interesting you thought of it as a logo. Not that that doesn't make sense.
hhp
26.Nov.2004 1.01pm
The quote is a standard rider that goes out with any proofs of designs that we have had to reproduce from substandard supplied images, anything that's not standard text (Helvetica
) tends to be a logo.
I spend a lot of my time trying to produce clean vectorised versions of shapes supplied as low res jpgs, or faxs, or digital photos of reflective badges on garments. In my experience anti-aliasing and image compression tends to round corners, so I if I see a decent corner, I normally believe it.
I've just set myself off on a whole new tangent about this, but I want to think about it for a while.
The left image I redrew, the righthand one was a mirrored and merged duplicate of an auto-traced right side profile. If I was approching this as a job, OK it's a little wierd, but it doesn't look like I'm getting loads of anti-aliasing or compression defects.
BTW my first thought when I saw H
26.Nov.2004 2.38pm
Rushton cartoon as promised, I think it must be the feet.
Sorry Hrant, I'll get back on topic a bit later.
26.Nov.2004 3.11pm
I simply forgot about this. Maybe the deadline was too long.
It's too late now that I've seen the others, right?
26.Nov.2004 3.19pm
I was indeed worried that people might be interested but simply slowly forget.
I should have put a reminder like two days before the end. I guess I forgot too! :-)
As for "too late", it is indeed too late to
avoid the power of suggestion for this shape
(although very few have been shown yet), but:
- It's not too late to do something with it anyway; and discuss the results.
- There are many other shapes, don't worry! :-)
hhp
27.Nov.2004 4.09pm
Wow, an ursine cyborg.
hhp
27.Nov.2004 4.13pm
Don't be silly, Hrant. He's just wearing a cloak.
27.Nov.2004 7.15pm
L, I have a strange feeling that bear is carrying a knife under that cloak. Maybe it is the whole lurking in the shadows and evil eyes thing.

This comes far too late in the game, but I really want to play!
27.Nov.2004 10.03pm
H
27.Nov.2004 11.18pm
My fix,
Like Stephen, I like also Zara one!
28.Nov.2004 5.10am
Yes, I agree the deadline was too long, I forgot all about it. But this is what I was intending to post:
If it ain't broke...
28.Nov.2004 9.13am
Wow, two opposite extremes!
I guess "Le Chirurgien" saw it as a foot serif with goiter.
hhp
28.Nov.2004 9.32am
28.Nov.2004 9.32am
28.Nov.2004 9.37am
Interesting!
Question:
Did it cross your mind to curve the semicircle-facing edges of the peripheral shapes?
hhp
28.Nov.2004 9.40am
Well, yes, actually it did, once, but I think I may have been, and still am, too lazy..
( So, then, Dr. Hrant, does this state something weird about my schizophrenic psychic self, beside being a lazy bastard.? )