Suggest a 'contemporary-looking' script?

rjohnston
1.Dec.2004 3.22am
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I'm just about to embark on some work in relation to an art exhibition. The exhibition is themed around the Robert Burns song 'A Slave's Lament' (for anybody who's interested, the artist, Graham Fagen, has recorded a dub version of the song with Adrian Sherwood at On-U Sound studios; the work takes the form of a music video which will be 'watched' by a group of scupltures). The work explores Scotland's rather little-known history of involvement in the slave trade.

So, typographically I'm looking for something slightly nautical- or 18th C.-looking which avoids pastiche or cliche. I'm envisioning a slightly hard-edged script face with a modern feel. First thing that took my eye was Psy/Ops' Ronsard.

The face will probably be used only for the title of the show, which is 'Clean Hands Pure Heart'.

Anybody feel like suggesting some alternatives?

R



Miss Tiffany
2.Dec.2004 10.21am
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What about a serif with an italic that has more character than your average italic? MVB Sirenne is very nice.


Miss Tiffany
2.Dec.2004 11.43am
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You might also look at Florens by LetterPerfect at Myfonts. Has a nice set of alternate swashes.


Miss Tiffany
2.Dec.2004 11.48am
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Forgot to mention ... Florens is on sale right now ...


dan_reynolds
2.Dec.2004 11.53am
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Does Pirouette count as contemporary?
http://www.linotype.com/91918/pirouette-family.html


Miss Tiffany
2.Dec.2004 11.59am
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Dan, that is gorgeous. I'm such a sucker for alternate characters. Kinda reminds me of the tame second cousin to Linotype's Zapfino.

:^)


dan_reynolds
2.Dec.2004 12.04pm
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Tiffany, Ryuichi Tateno was influenced by Zapf's work when he worked on this project. I've heard that Hermann Zapf is a fan of the typeface.

Zapfino's alternates are way more wicked, though.


dezcom
2.Dec.2004 12.07pm
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Dan,
I second Tiff on that. Major great stuff. That goes on my "gotta have" list.

Chris


David Hubner
2.Dec.2004 12.24pm
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Maybe fabulous 'Zanzibar', by G


Stephen Coles
2.Dec.2004 12.40pm
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I second Tiff's suggestion of Sirenne. I think it's ideal for the
nautical subject matter.

Is it more important that the script be "contemporary" or
"18th-century"? A thread title change might be in order.


dan
2.Dec.2004 1.20pm
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How about Font Bureau's Sloop


Stephen Coles
2.Dec.2004 1.36pm
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Miss Tiffany
2.Dec.2004 1.43pm
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Even though this sounds like -- is -- an historical show, the display itself sounds very modern. Is it?

If it is, I would tend toward the less decorative and elegant (?) typefaces. Sloop seems far too elegant and decorative. Zanzibar is interesting, but too much of it could leave the viewer not reading what is important. Pirouette would still work if the alternates were used strategically and sparingly.


jfp
2.Dec.2004 2.38pm
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I like also a lot Sirenne :-)


karen
3.Dec.2004 12.34am
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> slightly nautical- or 18th C.-looking which avoids pastiche or cliche.

Not sure if these fit the bill and I sure as hell don't know if they look 18th Century enough. But looking at Ronsard, I've come up with these:

T26's Opsmarckt
Lagarto from Letras Latinas. If you manage to buy this one, please lemme know how much it costs.
Penman, Penman B and Polonaise

Will you also consider something kinda distressed like Allegheny or would that be too hackneyed for the slave theme?

Platthand is nice too, no?


rjohnston
3.Dec.2004 2.21am
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Wow, thanks for all this guys. I thought the thread had been 'dingied' as we say in Glasgow (rough translation: 'ignored') but obviously you were deliberating :-)

Stephen: I think the contempory feel is more important than that the face be specifically 18th C. I guess it's misleading to mention such a specific period in the context of typography. As I'm sure you've realised, the treatment of the subject matter isn't drily historical.

To nobody in particular: I guess I'm also not keen on using distressed faces in general, and particularly not for this job -- it could all get a bit Captain Birdseye.

To Tiff, re readability: I'm not against people having to do a little bit of work to read certain things; in this case, as I wrote, I think the face will be used only for the four-word title. It's for a very visually-intelligent niche audience, who will go to the show whether they can read the title or not, so to me it's more important to offer something novel, pertinent to the subject matter but taking a new angle on it. A bit of mystery is fine.

Having said all that, David H: Zanzibar is wild. I looked at Fountain for this project but somehow managed to miss that face. I just downloaded the PDF and had a look at the full character set, and I think it could really work. It makes the right kind of visual reference, but feels like it couldn't have been designed anytime but now. Very nice indeed. The slight off-the-wallness is a bonus, too.

Maybe I'll get up the courage to post the results in Critique ...

Thanks all of you,

R


Jan Sandvik
3.Dec.2004 10.02am
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Liorah, anyone?