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ihector's picture

Hello all. I am currently working on creating a typeface loosely based on a piece of hand-written signage I found on a recent trip to Thailand. So far, I have designed caps only, but I aim to continue and create a comprehensive character set. I guess I'm trying for something quirky yet elegant!

Any thoughts and criticism would be much appreciated at this stage.

Eimantas Paškonis's picture

You probably made it by creating paths and applying brush in Ai?

Lower /P/ and /R/ bowls.
Shorten the middle /E/ bar a lot.
/X/ top is too narrow and centre is too high.
/S/ needs smoothing.
/Y/ connection is too high.
/A/ crossbar is too high.
Move rightmost /W/ hand to the left.
Same with /V/ - it „falls“ to the right.
/K/ is broken.

Eimantas Paškonis's picture

/J/ hook is too dark compared to body
/N M W/ have big black spots.
Not sure about /R/ curly leg - it falls out of geometric style.

ihector's picture

Thanks Minerva. Actually, no, I didn't create them in that manner, although it might have made things easier!

I probably should have pointed out that one of the things I liked most about the lettering that inspired this typeface was the somewhat exaggerated height of the characters, and so the elevated crossbars of the A and H and comparatively small counters of the P and R. Similarly, the curly leg of the R was integral to its charm and so I am tempted to stick with these quirks. Agree with you with everything else though, so many thanks for taking the time to look and pass on some comments. N,M and W have caused a lot of bother trying to eliminate those dense spots at the joins without the characters becoming excessively wide or the strokes to fine.

In the meantime, I have also been working on the lowercase, so I will report back soon with more to dissect.

Cheers!

Eimantas Paškonis's picture

You're "forcing" /Y/ and /K/ connections to be at that height. And that doesn't look good.
Also you can't put /A/ crossbar at the same height as the others. So why not lower it a lot? Almost to the ground.

ihector's picture

Minerva – I think you are quite correct on all points! How does this look now? I've also included my first efforts at some lowercase characters.

Eimantas Paškonis's picture

I see you lowered /P/ and /R/ bowls - looks more balanced.
/Y/ connection still looks to be higher than /H/ for example.
/X/ is quirky (very difficult letter to get right) - lower right leg is too far out.
/G/ and /E/ bars are at different heights now (somehow). They need to be at either the same height, or noticeably different.
/K/ connection was lowered too much. Now top is too light. Also try another connection.
/c/ too wide (big).
Not sure about /g/. The bowl should come from /d/, or try the two-story /g/.
/r/ terminal too dark.

Eimantas Paškonis's picture

P.S.
/E/ and /F/ too narrow.

ihector's picture

Hello all.

Long time no updates, but I've finally found a bit of time to get working on Flametree again. Here are my latest developments. If anyone has any thoughts, please comment!

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