Banner logo font

I'm brain dead today - Any idea what these 2 fonts are?:

Also, the "Insert Image" tool doesn't seem to be working for me on this site.


Both are Verdana. BANNER is Verdana Bold, slightly squooshed with added weigth (extra outline). The rest is regular Verdana, slightly stretched.

Thanks! The web address is definitely Verdana with some stretching. Not quite it on the "Banner" Part.

Found it - It's Franklin Gothic!