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hello and good typography year ( 2002 ) to all. This is the other part of project, the width Condensed of my RS Van. This apresentation show the differents weights for different kinds of soluction in the same family. The x-eight is extra tall and the stress of letters are vertical. I corrected the lc/g which is better for small sizes. I had been finnished the
expessures for use as a display font but I must correct tham for print to the future. Any comments? Thank’s for the last advices ( Van Expanded ) which give other perception for continue my work. Regards to all. / Ricardo Santos

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I like the new “g”.
I think the lightest weight has the most interesting character.

hhp

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Hrant,
do you consider the “g” to be the most challenging character to do? I’ve noticed that you’ve pointed out a few lowercase ‘g’s earlier on. Or perhaps it’s just your favourite character :)

Sbo

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I have been exposed…

The lc “g” is my favorite Latin character, maybe *because* it’s also the most challenging (in its optimal -bicameral- form). In terms of trickiness, it’s a distant first place — no other character comes remotely close (the classical, splayed UC “M” is pretty tough too, but much of it is more technical than aesthetic). If you look carefully, you’ll see that an alarming proportion of fonts which are just fine otherwise… happen to have a weak “g”! In some [rare] cases you can see that the designer realized he was out of his league, and took an existing “g” from a master designer and modified it.

Other reasons I focus on the [bicameral] “g”:
1. It’s a model of how best to promote readability in a font (or more accurately, an alphabet).
2. I happen to think its true potential is still largely obscured, in two ways: the stroke weight distribution of its lower stroke is typically very unnatural in most fonts (we’re [superficially] used to the awkwardness, but that doesn’t make it OK for the reader); closing the lower bowl is detrimental (it makes the structure too different than the rest of the alphabet), but very few designs enjoy an open-bottom form.

BTW, you guys are lucky: Armenian has about a dozen characters of the trickiness-level of the “g”…

hhp

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Hrant..thats so nice :) I want a favourite character as well… Do every typedesigner have a favourite? If so…which and why?

Uhm….would it be an idea to create a thread about fontpromotion and presentation? When looking at the pics our friend Ricardo post’s it has light green design elements that I find distracting. I would rather have it clean — black and white.

Sbo

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I had been corrected some versions of the first project(regular, oblique, bold, bold oblique) and I have some doubt on some letters like the oblique (

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i really like the condensed bold weights. they look as if they could be used for signage. baring this in mind — would it be worth having some lining figures also? just a thought…

great stuff

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Hello Geraintf, in fact each version have the respectives linning figures like you can see on my last samples but in this new restyling of the font I have just finished the new set of linning figures so I will post soon. Thank

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HI Ricardo,

Can you post a pdf? I’m interested in looking at the stem joins (realizing that it is part of the

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Hello again, each sample have Old Style and the new set of Lining figures. I made yestarday a correction on the oblique ligature (ae), I use and transform a slant l/c (a) from regular weight to construct this letter (like Randy suggest too). I think this option are better than the last version which created some confusion on legibility. Thank

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Oi Eduardo, thank’s for your atenction for give your comments. I would like to ask you about the wrong spancing of the capitals “P” and R”, where you saw that situation on the .gif or on PDF sample?. One more time thank’s Eduardo.
Um grande abra

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Hmm, are they different versions (the one in your
GIF and the one in your PDF)?
I’m looking at your PDF again, anyway. Looks like
the spacing of P and R in your italic versions
are fine. In the roman versions, I think the right
sidebearing could be reduced just a little.

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Thanks to all the people who help me and comment this work which was fundamental to finish, one more time thanks typophile community.

Van Condensed and Van Dingbtas are available in both Postscript Type 1 and TrueType formats for Macintosh and PC/Windows platforms.

http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/rsantos/van-condensed/

http://www.vanarchiv.com

Thanks and regards
Ricardo

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Congrats! Many more.

hhp

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Hi Ricardo,
congratulations!

KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK!!!

–Jacques

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Congrats! i love it….portuguese type rocks! :-)

//RMatos

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You can tattoo that on your t-shirt! Parab

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One more time thanks to all! ;)I hope in future bring and finnish the other part of the project Van Expanded. Regards for all.
Ricardo

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Sorry, the RS Van Condensed Medium Regular didn’t was uploaded with the rest of the sequencial presentation.

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