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Recommendations for a good book sans that was popular in the late 70s/early 80s please...
Posted by mrjono in
29 Sep 2011 — 3:26am
29 Sep 2011 — 3:26am
Hi,
I'm designing a book which heavily references the late 70s/early-80s, particularly European trends during that time. I was a wee baby in the early 80s, and my print archive has very little from that period. Plenty before and plenty after but during that period is a bit of a blind spot.
I think the body of the book will be set in sans serif type, but I'm not sure what was popular then. Image searches reveal a lot of Avant Garde for headlines/display but I'm not going to set page after page of text in it.
If anyone was designing a lot of books then, what faces were they using? I'm guessing Univers was popular, but anything else used a lot then would be great to know about. Am I wrong and should be looking at a serif face?
Any thoughts/contributions would be most welcome.
Thanks
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29 Sep 2011 — 3:49am
Helvetica, if you must.
What kind of "European trends", by the way?
29 Sep 2011 — 3:53am
Trends in music and art particularly. Think early electronic album covers, art publishing, magazine design. Is that a bit more help?
I'd be interested in a specific version of Helvetica, a cut closest to photo-letting perhaps, if such a thing exists. Straight out of the box Helv Neue has become a bit of a genre spanner, to quote the Mighty Boosh.
29 Sep 2011 — 4:31am
Futura is the font I remember from schoolbooks in the 70s.
29 Sep 2011 — 5:02am
Designers in the 70s and 80s sometimes used Optima as a book face. They felt the mix of thin and thick strokes made Optima easier to read than standard sans serifs with their uniform stroke weight.
Designers may have also liked Optima because it was designed by Hermann Zapf, whose Palatino was incredibly popular as a book face in the 70s and 80s.
29 Sep 2011 — 5:13am
I'd overlooked Futura to be honest, but could be an interesting idea.
Thanks for the Optima tip as well. I might mix serif and sans, Palatino is really nice, haven't used it on a commission before.
30 Sep 2011 — 7:29am
Are there any websites that allow you to browse fonts by year of release?
30 Sep 2011 — 8:06am
Released doesn't mean widely or early adopted ;-)
30 Sep 2011 — 10:01am
The faces I used then have not generally proven to be era-specific.
For instance, News Gothic, Univers, Futura and Helvetica all span many decades in popularity.
Avant Garde and Eras would be more time-trapped.
But be sure to set Eras so tight it's practically illegible!
However, the real trick to conjuring an era, or addressing its typographic personality, is not just selection of a typeface, but considering its implementation in layout.
Here's a book layout by Paul Rand, from 1985, using Univers Bold:
Note how Nevile Brody used Univers in the most influential style magazine of the era, Face, with Times as main body:
http://80scasualsblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/face-magazine-aug-1983.html
http://thefacearchive.tumblr.com/
3 Oct 2011 — 12:57am
Thanks Nick, always very helpful!
Your comment is really interesting, and I've been considering the way I'd use whichever typeface I use for the job and how I can evoke the time frame I'm referencing from the start of the job. I think I'm heading for Univers after a few test spreads so it's really nice to see the example of Paul Rand's use of it in bold.
Thanks again Nick!