Glass Antiqua - revival

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Denis Masharov's picture
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Glass Antiqua - revival
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Check out my revival of Glass Antiqua )))

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Glass-Antiqua/3228405

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The quotation marks are pretty useless for German typesetting:

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J Weltin, Tanks. Will be fixed in version 1.01
Also be added the missing ligatures.

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Draw a revival is probably the hardest work to do. This one would probably have benefited from an improved kerning. The caps appeared to have had more attention. The /h should be a bit large, the c seems too much on his back side. The bottom /s is too big. However, I like the /r even thought it is a bit off. Keep going.

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@sim - Thanks for the reference!
One major problem was the disparity in characters in different sizes.
Each size was manufactured separately, sometimes with a very large difference in the proportions, and I needed to find a common solution which allowed us to use the font in both large and small sizes.
The second big problem was the "dot gain" and the poor quality of fingerprint.
In 1913 the letters were made of soft metal, and they are deformed into small details when using ((((
I will turn my attention to the problems mentioned by you.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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> allowed us to use the font in both large and small sizes.

Remember though that you can't cross the display/text
threshold with one font, so don't try to reach too far!

hhp

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@hrant - Do not claim nonsense. More than 90 percent of the fonts can be used as a text font and as a display font.
I do not mean to set a body text. But small pieces of text can be typed by these fonts, sometimes it's even necessary to make the text "feelings".
Here is an excellent example of the use of Glass Antiqua in a small size

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles22/961093/projects/3228405/6fc15f5cc...

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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I guess it depends what you mean by "small sizes".
And different people have different standards;
remember, most people don't even understand why
we keep making new fonts... There's a reason metal
fonts -even in the pantograph age- used separate
masters for difference sizes.

BTW, it's impossible to judge how well
a font works from a photo like that.

> sometimes it's even necessary to make the text "feelings".

I don't understand - could you explain?

hhp

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Here is a larger size
http://s15.radikal.ru/i189/1203/64/a533f0766c7e.jpg

to make the text "feelings" - text with "feel", with "flavor"
Sorry for my english... ))))

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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The question is (for example in that setting*), does the
designer want the different sizes to convey -as much as
possible- the same feeling? Because -when they're from
the same font- they can't, since all details are rendered
very differently. And there's also a technical dimension:
the "g" seems to work OK large, but when it's small the
bottom loop is clotting.

* The larger size helps, thanks,
but the detail is still quite low.

There's no need to get upset - in fact it's a great
opportunity to make -and sell- a small-size version!

hhp

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Here's a nice example of size compensation:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/circlelobe/6798461487/in/photostream/
Look at the relative sizes of the small opening.

hhp

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In principle I agree with you that the division of the specifications (Caption/Text/Display etc.) are better than one universal font for all sizes.
But in this project, I was not set this mission.
Therefore it was important try to make possibility for this revival usage in a small (not too small) sizes.

"great opportunity to make -and sell- a small-size version" - may be later, when I be have a big studio and a lot of people working for me )))))

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Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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I do think it seems to have resulted in a good
compromise (since this has the flavor of a display
font) and anyway it's not possible to stop people
from mis-using a font.

hhp

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"I do think it seems to have resulted in a good compromise" - thanks. )
"it's not possible to stop people from mis-using a font" - yep, but I can not be responsible for all ))))))))