Is the relation between Zurich and Univers something similar to Arial and Helvetica? They are very similar.
Check the ﬁrst half of this thread. You’ll ﬁnd some links and info there. In my point-of-view, Zurich is not to Univers what Arial is to Helvetica. The Zurich issue (naming, copyright) is diﬀerent from Arial issue (design).
Zurich is Bitstream’s version of Univers. The designs are as close as any two versions of the same typefaces can be except in name. Now that they’ve reached reached an agreement with Linotype, they will be calling it Univers as well. This will never happen with Arial. It’s superﬁcially similar, but its details are quite diﬀerent from Helvetica. They do share the same character widths and weights. This is due to the fact that Arial was created as a substitute for Helvetica.
Zurich has the (original?) ampersand. http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/zurich/zurich/testdrive.html?s=ampersand+%26&p=48 vs http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/univers/55-roman/testdrive.html?s=ampersand+%26&p=48
Yves, Can you list other font name combinations that are the same like Zurich-Univers or point me to a link that has that information. I have the entire original Adobe CD collection but would like to use the best digitized face no matter who made it. Thanks, gln
Well i took a look yesterday to identifont and found these: aldine 401 = bembo classical garamond = sabon dutch 766 = adobe caslon dutch 801 = times headline dutch 811 = olympian dutch 823 = aster elegant garamond = granjon geometric 231 = kabel geometric 415 = metro geometric 706 = neuzeit grotesk geometric slabserif 703 = memphis geometric slabserif 712 = rockwell gothic 720 = venus halbfett humanist 521 = gill sans humanist 531 = syntax humanist 731 = frutiger incised 901 = antique olive kuenstler 480 = trump mediaeval lapidary 333 = perpetua latin 725 = meridien modern 880 = linotype modern monospace 821 = helvetica monosp. news 701 = ionic no 5 news 702 = exc
> In my point-of-view, Zurich is not to Univers what Arial is to Helvetica. The Zurich issue (naming, copyright) is diﬀerent from Arial issue (design). Uh-huh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that. The whole Helvetica/Arial, Times/Times New Roman PS etc. thing is a naming and copyright thing too.
> They do share the same character widths and weights. This is due to the fact that Arial was created as a substitute for Helvetica. That’s exactly why I regard it as a naming and copyright thing too. > Zurich has the (original?) ampersand. Yes, that’s the original. Adobe sure did an awful job at digitizing those early fonts. That’s why FontShop always recommended the Bitstream versions to users.