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Andy Clymer's picture
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For those of us who aren’t offended by ••••, ••••, or any of those “naughty” words, couldn’t there be an option to turn censoring off? I don’t find any mention of it in the preferences. Personally I think those big red bullets are rather annoying, anyone else agree?

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[No, on second thought my comment wasn’t that funny, so I’m censoring myself.]

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You could use creative spelling like the porn spammers.

Maybe the scripts could be tweaked so they come out as &$@#! instead, like in the comics. That would be ••••••• great. :-)

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I’m with Mark. Great ••••••• idea. Your comic research is paying off.

Really.

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[No, on second thought my comment wasn’t that funny, so I’m censoring myself.]

Yeah, that is funnier. :-)

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is there a list of ‘naughty’ words that it censors? England has different words than America.

Ly Sham's picture
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I didn’t see it on pseudodictionary.com either, but I did like this one:



quote:

fauxlympics — Any Olympic event that makes you wonder if it’s a sport or not.

e.g., Curling is a sport? Oh, come on. What is this, the Fauxlympics?



Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Joe, I’d say “fauxcabulary” is yours.

Vincent, you might in fact notice for example that “arse” goes through just fine.

Ly, curling is indeed the pits.

hhp

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oh good so I don’t want to sound like a twat, or make a mistake and yell bollocks! And I’ll look up my words in the dictionary in my fanny pack.

but if it my fault ‘tough titties’

vince

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Did someobody say ••••? Cause I can ••••••• curse like a ••••••• sailor. Joe and Jared haeve that ••••••• statement in ••••••• video if you don’t believe me.

Buy V1agra!

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One wonders if higher-level terms (swear words so offensive that they aren’t even commonplace) have also been censored. Otherwise someone needs a damned good felching.

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Oh goodness. So you can’t •••• but you can felch. Wow.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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> higher-level terms

Or really low level ones that the censors are too geeky to have ever heard. I once started putting together a Beavis & Butthead Lexicon — I’ll try to dig it up… you buttwipe.

hhp

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Fuckyeah.

hhp

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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BTW, is there a way to fix this stealth editing business? Like the email version of Jared’s post doesn’t have the last sentence… No harm done in this case, of course, but it does mean that the public record can include things that people don’t realize they haven’t seen.

At a minumum, when an edit/delete is made a simple alert notice should be mailed out.

hhp

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This is my favorite test of message censorship, sorry if it will not go trough. If it appears, anyone can check if auto-censor here knows this trick :-)

are you too

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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> any edits to a post would be duly noted for all to see, although not emailed out.

But the point is that if it’s not mailed out, anybody on email delivery (and isn’t that most people?) won’t see the edit unless he goes to the thread. And he would only really do that if he’s going to post something, and even then is unlikely to notice it.

But making the edited text look different would be a luxury.



Unless people can at least be made aware of an edit via email, I think editing should be disabled. But leave Deletion available, so the person can just replace the post wholesale, and everybody would see it.

hhp

Jes�ús de Francisco's picture
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I agree with Stephen here. Also, although I like the convenience of
email responses and updates, IMO the “community effect” only happens
if you keep connected to the site; there’s always something else going on
that you might miss if you only follow through email.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Plus there’s another way emailed posts suck: you can’t see “embedded” links.

That and the censored stuff doesn’t even come up as bullets or anything.

hhp

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Okay this seems to be best place/time to admit this: In order
to keep the task of kerning from putting me to sleep, I have
interspersed the regular ol’ kern words that I use to test with
dirty words and phrases. It helps keeps it interesting for me
in a juvenile kinda way.

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I have to agree with Yves on the editing point. I dont think I’ve ever posted to this site or my own without hastily editing my posts within minutes.

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To date, the best excuse we’ve had to turn it off is this:
http://www.typophile.com/forums/messages/73/697.html#POST3211

Since then we like to keep it on because it forces people to
broaden their vocabulary, or in some cases, invent a
*fauxcabulary.


*I think I invented that word. At least, I’m going to claim it
since it’s not yet in Google or Dictionary.com.

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That’s why I’m happy to have been playing music with Brits
for the past 15 years: all my cursing words come through!

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Joe said it right. Be ••••••• creative. OK, he didn’t say that but I know he wanted to.

In the meantime, our goal is to stay as accessible to students as possible, who often have to pass all web access through filtering gateways which otherwise might prevent access. Call us old-fashioned, we can live with that.

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All I have to do is check a checkbox and any edits to a post would be duly noted for all to see, although not emailed out. What does everyone else think?

This is what an editted post would look like (This sentence was added after posting)

(Message edited by benson on August 14, 2003)

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Having never used this feature before, we’d probably want to apply some style to the edit text, namely italicize and possibly drop a point size or two. Personally I think it clutters the message flow, which is the same reason why we don’t use signatures on this board either.

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Jared — Don’t add anything to the default message field.
Lack of extraneous poop is part of what makes Typophile
easy to read.

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I only use email notifications to see the pace of a hot
thread, and less to actually follow a thread. Since Jared
fixed the “last 1 | 3 | 7 days function,” I rely on that more
heavily.

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> It helps keeps it interesting for me in a juvenile kinda way.

Hey, if it works you won’t hear us complain!

> Jared — Don’t add anything to the default message field.
Lack of extraneous poop is part of what makes Typophile
easy to read.


Ditto. Don’t you change one bit, we love you just
the way you are! And I don’t mind the censoring:
we’re all supposed to be creative people here, and
as long as we’re more creative than the filtering
devices, all parties are happy.

On a side note and in general, I think censorship
$ucks big elephant willie. But in this context I can
live with it.

Yves Peters's picture
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> Unless people can at least be made aware of an
edit via email, I think editing should be disabled.
But leave Deletion available, so the person can just
replace the post wholesale, and everybody would
see it.


Sorry Hrant, but I use the editing quite often to
correct (spelling) mistakes. I think this shows I
respect the reader: I wouldn’t want him/her to trip
over typos when reading a post of mine.
Also, I would probably fall behind too much to my
taste on the Type Identification Leader Board. .

On a side note and in general (that’s Alzheimer
kicking in) is anyone particularly annoyed by the
use of clipart in posts?