ffè ligature: does it exist?

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bart diels's picture
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ffè ligature: does it exist?
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Ligatures for ff, fi, fl, ffi and ffl seem to be quite common, but I (being a copywriter, not a professional) cannot remember having ever seen a ligature for ffè -- which could be put to use in making a nice Italian caffè. Can anyone point me out to instances of this ligature (or other ligatures of an f followed by a letter with a grave accent)? Or is it inexistent? And if so, why would that be?
Thanks, Bart

Riccardo Sartori's picture
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 - 4:20am
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There was at least a couple of threads about f- ligatures, especially regarding following diacritics.
For the sake of clarity, the best practice tends towards an alternate |f| with shorter overhanging.

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Dear Riccardo,
Thanks for your reply. As I am new to Typophile.com, I do not know my way around yet. Could you tell me where those earlier threads are to be found?
I can see how an f with shortened terminal will leave room for the accent on a following è -- but why would one rather not have a ligature like the common fi-ligature? At least such a glyph would be less outlandish than this fó ligature...

(found on Péter Mólnars Flickr-pages)
Are there other examples? I would love to see them.
Thanks, Bart

Riccardo Sartori's picture
Joined: 13 Jul 2009 - 4:20am
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As always one could/should make different decision based on the intended usage (text vs. display, for example).

Here are some old threads that could be of interest:
http://typophile.com/node/66818
http://typophile.com/node/40338
http://typophile.com/node/43879
http://typophile.com/node/40439
http://typophile.com/node/74143

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The dot of an i is (with the exception of Turkish and Azerbaijani) not an accent and does not impart extra information, so it can be subsumed by the f without causing confusion. You want to be sure of whether you're looking at an accent or an unusual serif, because it changes what you read.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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Actually in terms of readability the dot is all the poor "i" has got (although nothing is as dumb as the "el").

hhp