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Papreo
Posted by 50pointtype in
25 Aug 2012 — 9:32pm
25 Aug 2012 — 9:32pm
Hello all--
I've got an in-progress here that needs your eyes. It's based on a hastily designed logo for a paper sculpture artist that I thought had some potential as a full set of letters. It's a bit of a mash-up of different elements but here's the main points I want: display face, high contrast, flared serifs and abrupt wedge serifs, large x-height, and some other thin, swashy elements and unconventional forms are ok with me since I envision it being used at large sizes. I'd also like to make light and ultra weights too.
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26 Aug 2012 — 12:51am
I Quite like it. Especially the lowercase.
Not sure about the “algerian” treatment of |A| and |H|. Also, |R|’s leg looks a bit wobbly.
27 Aug 2012 — 1:55am
I'd reexamine the |k|: Its weights don't interact well at the crossing, which leads the eye to just drop through instead of following the loop.
27 Aug 2012 — 7:05am
Full of Live!
4 Sep 2012 — 6:28pm
So I want the "thins" to be super sharp. So much so that I'll have some of these joins to not even meet. How does this look to you? (new /k/ also included)
4 Sep 2012 — 7:42pm
New k is good.
I suggest swapping the stronger joins with the disappearing ones whenever there is a subtle threat of ambiguity, to make it clearer that "ab" is not "uh".
5 Sep 2012 — 2:50am
I don't think these new thin joints would cause any substantial conflict. The letter shapes are well defined and distinct. But I would trust my own eye, esse est percipi ;-)
Ditto, I like the new /k/. The top has more stress than before, it became almost a bit squarish. I suppose you wanted the squarishness of the capitals to recur.
The bottom left of /s/ seems too thin.
I would have liked an /O/ more in keeping with /C/ and /B/. Generally, I notice two different curve styles in your capital alphabet (and both work as seen in the mixed-case setting). Right now I like more the vibe of the lowercase than the uppercase, I don't know why, but it may be because of the two divergent styles. I like how /c/ and /C/ relate to each other. In short, my question is if the all-caps setting works as well as the mixed-case.
The triangle serif of /K/ looks too big.
I like what you did with the /q/.
Keep up the enjoyable work!
10 Sep 2012 — 5:26pm
Some more refinements. Mostly to the uppercase. It's important to me for it to work well in all caps.
-More tapered triangle serifs (see /E/F/)
-no more goofy crossbars
-a more conventional /s/
-new legs for /K/R/k/
-reshaped /G/
10 Sep 2012 — 5:28pm
Some initial numbers. Although I think I might save these as alternates. They're a bit "swashy."
10 Sep 2012 — 5:34pm
With super pretty nums like that you'll have to rethink the alphabetics! :-)
Or at least have some killer alts.
hhp
17 Sep 2012 — 7:57am
Here's my first take on the light weight. My biggest concern is getting the "flare" serifs to work well with the more traditional serifs. The /A/ and /V/ are good case studies of letters that need to reconcile the two.
Also, I changed the name to Deja.
Deja 01
17 Sep 2012 — 1:23pm
I don't know if the disconnected stems of /M/,/N/,/V/,/W/ are working for the regular weight. In the light weight they definitely look weird to my eyes, however. They don't disappear smoothly like the thins of the lowercase. I can understand it does not make much sense to thin out those stems "smoothly", as they are already hairlines as they approach the diagonal. Not sure how one could solve this...
17 Sep 2012 — 3:24pm
How is this treatment? /W/ is already like this.
17 Sep 2012 — 3:27pm
New /g/. It's probably worth looking into an alternate /a/ as well.
17 Sep 2012 — 3:53pm
Yes, that caps now look good. In /N/ maybe a bit too dark, but I like the joints you've come up with.
And, oh boy, that /g/ shouts "glamour"! Nice details. The counter is somewhat squarish, but you could leave it like that.
17 Sep 2012 — 7:14pm
Oooh, glamour. That's where I was seeing this going. :) And nothing wrong with some squarish counters. I've been looking at some of the Bodoni iterations and I'm surprised just how flattened those curves are. Here's all of them, plus the new /a/ and /g/.
19 Sep 2012 — 6:19am
Not the best choice to avoid confusion:
http://dejavu-fonts.org/
http://www.myfonts.com/search/deja/
19 Sep 2012 — 6:39am
Good direction. The thickening of stems at the bottom of /V/ and /W/ looks a little clunky to me. A sharper point to those vertices might fit the face better. And top half of bold /a/ looks too light.
27 Sep 2012 — 4:58pm
New V, W, a...
30 Sep 2012 — 4:22am
Bttom of V and W could be even pointier. Pay attention to the overshoot when you make them pointy though! The bottom of the bowl of /a/ seems a bit too disconnected from the rest.
If you're really going glamour, it might be worth a try to go even lighter, and/or even darker. Keep it up!
30 Sep 2012 — 4:42am
This looks very nice, Galen!
3 Nov 2012 — 7:35pm
Yup, I'm still working on this. In case anyone's still curious, here's a little bit of what's going on.
4 Nov 2012 — 1:31am
Nice idea for the dollar sign.
The light /S/ has slightly dark serifs.
/2/ has a rethickening in it's curl, unlike /ß/ and /&/. I suppose /3/ and /5/ echoe that feature. It looks good, but makes the glyph too interesting IMO, rendering /9/ flat next to it.
4 Nov 2012 — 2:50pm
Looking great! Can you impart some of the grace of the bold /R/ leg to the light /R/ leg? The latter looks stiff.
Sides of bold /t/'s stem also look a bit rigid.
5 Nov 2012 — 8:41am
Thanks, I was wondering about that. With the /R/ leg more relaxed, what to do with the /K/? Deciding between these two...
5 Nov 2012 — 8:43am
New /2/...
5 Nov 2012 — 10:09am
Very pretty, without being cloying.
hhp
13 Nov 2012 — 5:10am
Perhaps the last |A|'s crossbar is a bit stiff compared to the flowing quality of the rest?
15 Nov 2012 — 12:15pm
I feel the /2/ is leaning backwards. Shifting the bottom serif a tad to the right would do. Looking great.
15 Nov 2012 — 7:50pm
I like the original /a. The new one not so much.
13 Jan 2013 — 5:39pm
Just thought i'd drop in to say i'm loving this. Very nice!