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Well, today I registered the domain name iLUVfonts.com, and decided to celebrate by opening up my entire catalog to anyone who thinks that they can improve any of my fonts, for an equal share in the revenue. I am going to be less active in font development, and a lot more active in marketing and promotion.

I am especially interested in non-Latin scripts. Rather than taking the one-big-ball-of-wax approach (many bytes and much moola), I think that the buying public would be well served with Latin+Greek or Latin+Cyrillic, at a very nice price (ten bucks a pop, or so). Some of my fonts are probably a little too wacky for Arabic, but maybe there are a lot of wacky Arabs out there I don't know about.

Also open for consideration: contextual alternates and ligatures to jazz things up. Also available: over 160 works in progress, all in various stages of completion.

And, if there are any Illustrator gurus out there, I would be happy to pay for a license for LivePresets, if you think that you can fix my "no-stroke" spacer problem in my AI Border Brush sets.

Revenue splits will happen with each sale as it is posted and cleared: PayPal account required. See my complete commercial collection at myfonts.com, then let's talk: kipnick [at] msn [dot] com.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Cool idea.

Would it be possible for somebody making a derivative to charge a different price than your original? I'm thinking higher.

I assume you get paid first and then hand out the 50%. Would the derivative designer at least get third-party notice of sales made?

hhp

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Well, higher would be better for both of us, but I want to keep the prices reasonable.

And, no: the revenue would be split automatically as each sale is made. Just make sure that you don't opt for the "send me an email every time" notification: too much good news tends to clog your inbox. Plus, a PayPal debit card gives you instant access to your money, anytime you want.

Is there a large market for wacky Armenian fonts? Surely you aren't a typical Armenian…are you?

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Actively following.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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What's "reasonable", and what do you stand to lose with "unreasonably" high prices?

I'm not a typical Armenian (I'm not a typical anything that I know of) but I wouldn't call myself "wacky" either. However with such a large library you must have something merely "mildly eccentric".

hhp

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Interesting.
Interested.

Neil Caldwell's picture
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Oldnick, could you describe in detail your Illy brush problem, perhaps with a screeny or two?

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Nick Curtis's picture
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Neil,

The problem was originally discussed here…

http://typophile.com/node/94664

Since then, nobody—and, especially, nobody on the Illustrator development team—has offered a solution. I simply want to delete the spacer lines from the swatch elements but retain the Postscript coordinates. How hard can that be? Judging from the thuderous non-response, apparently it's impossible. Go figure…

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Interested also.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Nick, FWIW I went through the whole lot and found 12 that could work from where I'm standing. One more question: would the original EULA have to stand or could it be modified for derivatives?

hhp

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Hrant—

Hell: if you have a EULA that works better for you, 'splain to me why and we can work something out.

Email me at kipnick [at] msn [dot] com with your list, and I will send you the .vfb source files. Details for payment disbursement: 10% overhead (server admin, MS and payment processing—I have already approached Fontspring about handling the non-payment part); 45% for you; 45% for me; promotional consideration by subscription. As for the ast item: if we both agree on a promotional budget, we BOTH pony up a specific amount per month, and flog the hell out of the goods.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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Nick, sorry to do this, but before I email you directly I need to clear something up, and if it does get cleared up you stand to benefit as well: especially since you've been in dire straights lately, I worry that at some point, somehow I'll end up being sued (especially since your brother is a lawyer). Even if it's a frivolous lawsuit I stand to lose something, not least time, which is my most valuable resource.

And if any third party wants to give me advice, general or specific, in public or in private* I would of course welcome it.

* hpapazian at gmail dot com

hhp

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Nick, so the problem is one of a pattern gap?

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Hrant,

My "legal problems" are of a personal and not a professional nature. As long as our relationship remains "collegial," my problems remain mine and not yours. So, send me the goddamned file names and play with the source files: you are under no obligation—legal or moral, express or implied—to share your work with me. Capisce?

Neil,

No: the patterns work seamlessly BUT I had to used no-stroke spacers to get them to align. Normally, this would not be a problem UNLESS an end-user wanted to apply a stroke to the designs, IN WHICH CASE the no-stroke spacers would become visible. Capisce?

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Nick, yep I now understand... insert evil laugh here "_ _ _".

I'll look around and try to find a work around to your, stroke-no-stroke, problem. Stroking a no-stroke would obviously defeat the no-stroke spacer alignment method. I think that is where the problem began, that is, 'fixing' the pattern's alignment via using 'no-stroke' spacers.

Why couldn't the patterns work seamlessly without using no-stroke spacers?

n.

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Nick Curtis's picture
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Neil,

The border samples fit in neat little bounding boxes: sometimes, aligning the elements requires spacers.

That's right, folks: draw a rectangle, then click on a border pattern, which can—in turn—be further customized through the Pattern Brush interface. Twelve borders, three bucks, full rights assigned to licensee for EVERYTHING except redistribution and/or resale.

Of course, some enterprising soul could also come up with pre-tweaked packages, organized by color palette, for sale to AI newbs or dummies, or just plain lazy folks.

Any collaborators interested NOW?

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Oh: another thing about my proposed new cooperative—the cooperative will maintain a digital certificate, so that all Opentype fonts released through the site can be digitally signed.

Plus, if some of the geniuses in the BUILD forum can guide me, I am proposing that every font sold will also include a unique serial number appended to the XUID number.

Additionally, I would like to offer Forever Font Insurance to all purchasers. If they register their purchases, any and all future upgrades to the specific fonts which they licensed will be upgraded at no additional charge. What say? Would a guarantee like that be worth an extra buck or two at checkout?

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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I am proposing that every font sold will also include a unique serial number

Super.

hhp