Turnip: a Bookman-like serif face with rounded outer shapes and squarish inner shapes

enne_son's picture

Profiled by Ellen Shapiro on:
http://imprint.printmag.com/typography/turnip-patch-meets-type-technolog...
http://www.fontbureau.com/fonts/Turnip/

Does the systematic violation of (expansionist) chirographic logic underlying the deliberated dissociation between Turnip’s inner and outer shapes put the typeface in a class with Legato, and does it have the same benefits in terms of readability?

Peter

Nick Shinn's picture

serifs can be chirographic

But more punchographic in a face like Times, vectorgraphic in Turnip.

a counter doesn't have to be fully enclosed to be relevant as a counter;

True, but there is a topological/categorical disctinction between a closed counter, which is a discrete shape, and an open counter, which is partly vague, open to interpretation, and blends with other open counters. I don’t believe readers see such counters as discrete entities, or are as aware of their functionality as that of closed counters.

you don't have to hold the "pen" at a consistent angle to make chirography...

However, broad pen writing with consistent angle is where the stroke is most apparent.
By the time we get to considering drawing Times with a pointed nib, the amount of adjustments of angle and pressure required so far remove letterform from being a smooth expression of writing as to make it carefully constructed drawing/lettering, fakery of the notion of Stroke. At least, that is the way I see and “feel” it, as a calligrapher.

hrant's picture

the amount of adjustments of angle and pressure required so far remove letterform from being a smooth expression of writing

And my contention has been that this is true of type design in essence, not to mention virtually all fonts - certainly text fonts.

The tool affects the results because humans want to save time; and not having to think deeply saves time too! Also, emotion cannot be discounted (especially in a craft that's essentially performed for culture more than capitalism) and our penchant for romantically latching on to a long-dead precedent means that gems like Legato, Fenland and Turnip are still extremely rare.

hhp

Rob O. Font's picture

Yes, modern text faces save time. This is the only reason there are not more time-wasting fonts around.

Sonoraphobic's picture

Ugh, the description. "Turnip is coarse and down-to-earth."

J. Tillman's picture

Sonoraphobic, I agree. This is an artful typeface. I've been looking at it as a very readable text typeface. And it deserves a more appropriate description.

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