Turnip: a Bookman-like serif face with rounded outer shapes and squarish inner shapes

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Nick Shinn's picture
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Joined: 8 Jul 2003 - 11:00am
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serifs can be chirographic

But more punchographic in a face like Times, vectorgraphic in Turnip.

a counter doesn't have to be fully enclosed to be relevant as a counter;

True, but there is a topological/categorical disctinction between a closed counter, which is a discrete shape, and an open counter, which is partly vague, open to interpretation, and blends with other open counters. I don’t believe readers see such counters as discrete entities, or are as aware of their functionality as that of closed counters.

you don't have to hold the "pen" at a consistent angle to make chirography...

However, broad pen writing with consistent angle is where the stroke is most apparent.
By the time we get to considering drawing Times with a pointed nib, the amount of adjustments of angle and pressure required so far remove letterform from being a smooth expression of writing as to make it carefully constructed drawing/lettering, fakery of the notion of Stroke. At least, that is the way I see and “feel” it, as a calligrapher.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am
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the amount of adjustments of angle and pressure required so far remove letterform from being a smooth expression of writing

And my contention has been that this is true of type design in essence, not to mention virtually all fonts - certainly text fonts.

The tool affects the results because humans want to save time; and not having to think deeply saves time too! Also, emotion cannot be discounted (especially in a craft that's essentially performed for culture more than capitalism) and our penchant for romantically latching on to a long-dead precedent means that gems like Legato, Fenland and Turnip are still extremely rare.

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Yes, modern text faces save time. This is the only reason there are not more time-wasting fonts around.

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Ugh, the description. "Turnip is coarse and down-to-earth."

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Sonoraphobic, I agree. This is an artful typeface. I've been looking at it as a very readable text typeface. And it deserves a more appropriate description.