(How )are roman characters embedded in foreign fonts?

QwertMan's picture

Hello! I have a somewhat technical font question and I was told this website would be a good place to ask. I've just begun to work with my university's student run TV station.

I got an email from the graphics team leader with a supposedly all-encompassing list of the fonts available on the titling machine ( this list provided below). I noticed quickly that most of these are foreign fonts- arabic, thai, han, hebrew, etc. Only a few were roman character fonts. I responded telling her that most of those fonts aren't actually fit for our use, and was surprised at the discussion over which fonts people like more, Aharoni or David.

It seems to me that typing English sentences under one of these fonts will result in the use of a generic font, since trying that out in many of these got me thin, non-smoothed, ugly fonts. I was confused though, by the fact that they all did look slightly different, and that the Hebrew fonts, in word, didn't work (trying to format normal text as Arabic just reverted back to the default Word font).

Could someone explain exactly whether or not these fonts contain English character sets, and whether or not they're actually improper to use for English writing? I tried to do some research of my own but didn't find anything besides endless websites advertising foreign font downloads without explanation of their inner-workings.

This is the list:
Cordia New, Cordia UPC, DilleniaUPC, Dotum, Dotum Che, EucrosiaUPC, FressiaUPC, Gulim, Gulim Che, Gungsuh, GungsuhChe, IrisUPC, JasmineUPC, KodchiangUPC, LilyUPC, MS Gothic, MS Mincho, MS PGothic, MS PMincho, MS UI Gothic, Microsoft Sans Serif, MingLiU, NSimSun, P Ming Liu, SimHei, SimSun, Simplified arabic, Simplified Arabic Fixed, Tahoma, Traditional Arabic, Verdana

hrant's picture

Many Latin components of non-Latin fonts are illegitimate and/or low-quality. Except for "official" ones (like the ones that come with Windows) which are however usually very generic, hence do not match the non-Latin in style (and are rarely highly usable just for Latin anyway).

It sounds like you need some real (and non-OS) fonts. But do you do a fair amount of non-Latin as well?

BTW make sure laymen don't get to choose which fonts to use - that's what designers are for.

hhp

gohebrew's picture

Hebrew is much easier than Arabic in the non-Latin group. Matching Hebrew to Latin is much easier than Arabic. But Arabic is not impossible hrant can you post or point to some examples.

There is a forum discussion already on how to best match a Latin design, like those that you mention, to Hebrew. See baruchgorkin.com for examples.

I started doing this at Font World in the early nineties. It is much easier to create a Hebrew font design from scratch that matches a Latin font design that to create a Latin font design from scratch that matches a Hebrew font design.

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