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Hey guys,
I was just looking at FF Meta and I have to say that the 'y' character is driving me crazy. Was it intended to be like that or just an oversight( which i don't think it is). Don't get me wrong, it is an amazing font but...
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1 Nov 2012 — 8:06am
a lot of Meta's appeal is it's uniqueness. Have you seen the g?
1 Nov 2012 — 8:15am
Yes. A very innovative and a unique g and I love it. But still why y?
1 Nov 2012 — 8:19am
umm, same reason.
Consider some of the definitions of the word "Meta."
Change in position or form, alteration, transposition: metathesis, metasomatism.
going beyond or higher, transcending: used to form terms designating an area of study whose purpose is to examine the nature, assumptions, structure, etc. of a (specified) field.
2 Nov 2012 — 1:37am
the 'y' character is driving me crazy.
Why? It's a valid design principle to draw it this way — especially for typefaces intended for smaller sizes. If the strokes would meet exactly at the baseline, then it would look optically incorrect. The way it is drawn in Meta (and some other typefaces) it stresses the character's anchoring on the baseline.
2 Nov 2012 — 2:15am
Thanks a lot. Gives me more food for thinking about typefaces at small pt. sizes
2 Nov 2012 — 2:28am
Ryan, LOL. Meta was intended to be a workhorse typeface for the German Post Office. It’s safe to assume there was no philiosophical thinking involved. (And it was called PT55 originally.)
Instead, consider what would be the alternative for the y?
(Top is the original in Normal, Bold, Black)
The cut in the falling diagonal prevents a black spot and accentuates the baseline. At least that’s what I think.
2 Nov 2012 — 2:29am
Oops, I didn’t see Ralf’s post before sending mine ;)
2 Nov 2012 — 9:36am
By the way …
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/d-kerber/cast/bold/glyphs.html#glyphs/50575...
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ef-typeshop/glasgow/medium/glyphs.html#glyp...
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/dizajndesign/dezen-solid/medium/glyphs.html...
2 Nov 2012 — 10:30am
Two Zapf faces from the 1950s with this feature:
Aldus
Melior
2 Nov 2012 — 1:43pm
It's also in Spiekermann's Officina Sans, which came before Meta.
2 Nov 2012 — 2:33pm
I'm not a fan of the tail, but the notch is grand. Here's Patria's "y":
hhp