How font name views in CS

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How font name views in CS
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I've created a font in Font Lab as a kind of experiment, worked out the metrics / kerning pairs and exported it as as TT font. It works fine, but when in Illustrator / Indesign the font name appears in brackets in a defualt font rather than appearing in it's own font style. Has anyone come across this - it's no biggie, but i really want it to look as good as all the other fonts, and it looks a bit budget.

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This generally happens when the font file is missing. How are you activating the font or making it available to the CS applications?

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I'm using font explorer x pro? Like i said it works as font, it's just the selection menu in CS.

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Have you tried removing it from FontExplorer and adding it to the Applications/Adobe InDesign CS/Fonts folder? (assuming you are on a Mac)

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Mac yes. All my font's are in Font Explorer X, with no issues, i think it's a naming / exporting issue and there is one bit of data missing.

I did look at the indesign fonts folder, but there isn't one for illustrator so how do you get font's to work globally? Font Explorer X is just FontSuitcase on steroids.

thx

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The point of adding it to the application font folder is to see if it works in the application menu when added in this way, as using any font management tool is effectively at a level of remove from the application.

If when added to the application font folder you are still seeing the same problem then there is definitely a problem with the font and you can attempt to figure out what.

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okay fair point, no is the answer it doesn't work, so then i tried another font but that doesn't activate by putting in the Indesign Font folder either. I've never used this before so not sure, i restarted application.

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What kind of TrueType font have you generated, OpenType/Windows or Mac specific?

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Windows TrueType / OpenType TT

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Is it just one font file or multiple files as part of a family?

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just one font file
i just tried making a opentype (otf) but am getting the same problem.

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How is the naming structured for the font? Have you done anything radical, by way of experimentation, with other parts of the font metadata?

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kept it simple / default , let it create the naming structure, copied another font to check. I've been going through the settings to see if i can spot anything but nothing unusual? I've tried opening up in Fontographer then generating from there, but still the same issue?

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Without seeing the naming conventions I can't really suggest much else. You could try copying the following:

Absent Normal (Regular)

Names and Copyright
Family Name: Absent
Weight: Regular
Width: Normal
Number: 400
[no boxes ticked]
Style Name: Regular
PS Font Name: Absent
Full Name: Absent
Menu Name: Absent
FOND Name: Absent

OpenType-specific names
OT Family Name: Absent
OT Style Name: Regular
Mac Name: Absent

Additional OpenType names
(whatever other fields are auto-populated in this area you should make sure you have the following. In each case the first number corresponds to the NID, the second to the PID, the third to the EID and the fourth to the LID. You may need to adjust some of these manually)

1.1.0.0: Absent
1.3.1.1033: Absent
2.1.0.0: Regular
2.3.1.1033: Regular
16.3.1.1033: Absent
17.3.1.1033: Regular

This is in line with [[Recommendations for dealing with font problems in Microsoft Word 2011 for Mac|Adam Twardoch's updated naming guidelines]], which you may find it useful to read through.

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tried this but still no luck,
thanks though
c.

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the font name appears in brackets in a defualt font

That's usually an indication that a font is missing in an existing document, though there [[http://www.typophile.com/node/71766|are apparently other causes]]. Maybe try [[http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/troubleshoot-fonts-mac-os-x.html|clearing the font caches]].