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Referring to the image, which do you feel is the most pleasing treatment for small caps?
1: Caps and small caps using default weight & size settings.
2: Caps are dropped from bold to medium. Small caps unchanged.
3: Caps are dropped from bold to medium. Size is dropped from 16 to 15. Small caps are unchanged.
23 Nov 2012 — 7:28am
It depends.
Lacking context, I would say the bottom one. If you want it to look a bit traditional/old-fashioned, the middle one. If you want the acronym to stand out, the top one (with the middle one doing this more than the bottom one).
hhp
23 Nov 2012 — 7:49am
Yes. The top one looks unbalanced to me. The initial letters in the default settings feel too heavy. Curious that this is how H&FJ ship the font. A nod to traditional use? The context is: usernames in an application (first name, second name).
23 Nov 2012 — 8:03am
Paul, are you sure that you're actually using the small cap characters, accessed through the OpenType palette, in Gotham Narrow? The top example is what I would expect to see when the application scales the glyphs in a face that doesn't have true small caps included.
23 Nov 2012 — 9:24am
As Hrant says, context is important.
Small caps are a contrast style, so what are you most likeley to be contrasting with?
If you intend to use it primarily for, say, acronyms in running U&lc text, then you should consider the options in that context.
Another alternative to changing weight is to apply a stroke value in InDesign.
It may also be useful to add a little horizontal scaling and extra tracking.
23 Nov 2012 — 11:41am
As far as I know, neither width of Gotham comes with small caps, so what paultype seems to be trying is to emulate the look of true small caps by using scaled full caps. I think this does not work at all. In all three cases, the artificial small caps look too narrow and I doubt that this can be remedied by stretching them. If it is just one or two words at a fairly small size, go for the third option.
24 Nov 2012 — 4:12am
thankyou for everyone's expertise. I had assumed that gotham included small caps and that the examples above were created as such (not with full caps scaled down). Yes I was using otf character panel. Thankyou all for the guidance.
24 Nov 2012 — 4:37am
If a font does not include small caps, scaled-down full caps are what InDesign or Illustrator give you without even showing a warning. They expect you to notice yourself—and in 9 out of 10 cases you really should. As a Gotham alternative with small caps, Proxima Nova might be worth a try.
24 Nov 2012 — 10:29pm
Thanks for all of your help R.
25 Nov 2012 — 6:20pm
I would say they are also a bit too small. If they're fake, you can change the general scaling used in the "typography" (if that's the name) pallet, but I usually set up a character style, and give a different percentage to height and width. So far, nothing you can do about the weight with InDesign -- smallest you can stroke them is .25 points, and that's usually too much.
You can also get into disagreements (watch the responses here!) about the right size. For acronyms, I like small caps to be just a touch larger than the x-height of the lower case letters. They should stick out without calling attention to themselves. Yeah, that's a long way from giving a cookbook answer.
In your case, you're using cap-small cap, and again, I'd set them a little bigger. They don't quite balance, to my eye.
One problem with using a character style where horizontal-vertical scaled is applied: kerning will be broken where the scaled letters fall next to an unscaled glyph -- if you set "RCA's" and apply scaling to RCA but not the following apostrophe, the automatic kerning with the A and the apostrophe will be lost. Have to do it by hand, with each occurrence.
I use this trick with true-cut small caps if they're not to my taste as well. You can't go very far before you mess up the weight enough to look bad, though. Maybe a 5% to 7% change is all that won't show -- depends on the font.
BTW, I've used Thomas Phinney's Hypatia Sans where others might use Gotham. I know they're a bit different. I usually prefer Hypatia Sans. Which, BTW, has small caps. No condensed, though.
25 Nov 2012 — 6:53pm
Quite valuable insights, Charles—thanks! Let me add the following:
So far, nothing you can do about the weight with InDesign -- smallest you can stroke them is .25 points, and that's usually too much.
It is possible to add strokes of .01 points (and probably less, but I couldn’t see these) in CS5, so you actually can beef up light small caps. I do this all the time.
25 Nov 2012 — 7:16pm
Ah, thanks.
We still use CS4. Tried to go to 5.5, but it had a bug that made it not useable with our workflow. Don't ask, it will just get into a litany of InDesign bugs. That particular one's gone in CS6, but we've not completely wrung 6 out yet. Anyway. something to look forward to. Another example of something you can do in either a font editing program or a layout program, unless the silly font license requires you to do it in the layout program...as with all H&FJ fonts...
Thanks again.