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Hey all,
I'm looking for some help with a nice font combination for my PhD thesis. I wrote it in MS Word (big mistake), but after seeing the font used by LaTeX (CMU family), I initially chose CMU Bright for headings and CMU Serif for body text.
This feels a little antiquated now, and I'd like a clean and modern feel to the thesis. I've been playing with a couple of different font combinations, and have settled on:
Open Sans (Light/Bold)
Bree (Thin)

Thoughts/recommendations?
26 Dec 2012 — 6:18am
Hello Mehmet & welcome to Typophile. Before the members suggest you anything — it would be useful for them to know what is your topic about. Also, Bree is a sans serif font designed particularly for large sizes, it is advised to use serif fonts for long texts; particularly if the content is academic.
26 Dec 2012 — 7:04am
Everything Sevag said, plus: Bree is great but in this case it's too expressive, both for long text and for a doctorate thesis.
hhp
26 Dec 2012 — 5:39pm
If this were an advertising job designed to grab peoples' attention on casual inspection, such charmingly decorative fonts might be just the thing. OTOH, a PhD thesis generally has a captive audience already, and in any case is intended to convince people by virtue of its content, not its typography.
What you want here is something that (a) is comfortably readable, (b) looks professional, and (c) doesn't get in the way of the content. IMO anything else is not only superfluous, but counterproductive.
When typesetting book or academic text – or anything where the content is the critical aspect – the ideal font is one which the reader doesn't even consciously notice, so long as it accomplishes (a), (b) and (c) as noted above. Any 'message' that the fonts convey should be strictly subconscious.
(I've heard more than one professional say that when they see overtly beautiful fonts in resumes or academic work, their immediate thought is "OK, what's the author trying to hide?")
For the body text, I definitely think serif type is called for. (I know some people challenge the theory that serif types are easier to read in running text, but I'm a firm believer in that particular orthodoxy.)
26 Dec 2012 — 5:42pm
But -fortunately- that still leaves a universe of possibilities.
hhp
27 Dec 2012 — 2:19am
Thanks for the responses. I've been looking for a clean serif font for a while and haven't found one I can settle on.
My thesis is on the natural barrier that exists between the blood and brain (to protect the brain and provide all the nutrients it needs in a carefully controlled way), and uses our current understanding for the design of next generation drugs to treat brain conditions. Not exactly bed time reading!
Since it's a thesis it's not something that people would ordinarily come across, so my font selection is more about reducing reader fatigue and clean presentation, rather than pulling them in for aesthetics.
27 Dec 2012 — 5:10am
Will your thesis contain many equations, formulas, or tables of numerical data? If so, compare the numeral 1, the lowercase l, and the capital I in any font you're considering. In many sans-serif faces, it's difficult to tell those three characters apart, which leads to confusion in reading equations and formulas.
27 Dec 2012 — 8:25am
Simplified structure (if that's what you mean by "clean") doesn't necessarily correlate to ease/comfort in reading. Personally, I think a traditional face like Bembo, Galliard, or Janson makes for superbly readable, comfortable text.
If by "clean" you're thinking of something more in the transitional vein, I recall seeing an article not long ago which claimed that people were statistically slightly more likely to agree with something set in Baskerville than with other fonts. For a PhD it might be an edge worth thinking about. :-)
If you want something specifically open and uncluttered, Constantia actually isn't a bad face, although I'm not sure how well it would hold up for dense multi-page writing.
Speaking personally, for a long time I favoured Marty Pfeiffer's Nu Serif for prose. It's a nicely neutral serif face which is easy to read, although the high x-height may not be everybody's cup of tea.
27 Dec 2012 — 8:52am
To me "clean" doesn't have to mean geometric, or traditional. To me it means something like this:
http://granshan.org/works/2008/hrant.pdf
http://themicrofoundry.com/ad/CR.pdf
But that study was majorly flawed.
BTW Alex, Nu Serif really smells like an outline-swipe job... Some Times and some Stone? And the guy is charging money for it...
hhp
27 Dec 2012 — 10:10am
I think by clean I mean light. A lot of the Serif fonts I've come across feel very heavily weighted. Text feels really boggy and dark (to me) with anything I've tried except for CMU Serif.
Bembo or Garamond Light might do the trick! I'll have a play and see how they look.
27 Dec 2012 — 11:12am
@hrant: Well, it was the first font family I ever bought, so I have a certain soft spot for it. The designer claims it for an adaptation of a bitmap font called Espy Serif; since I have (after all) done something similar with Workplace Sans, I was inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. His fonts are also very well hinted, which doesn't strike me as typical for quickie-knockoff jobs.
OTOH, you've a point that the letterforms are very similar to Stone Serif (with some subtle differences), which I never actually noticed before. My only exposure, hitherto, to Stone is some samples in the Meggs-Carter book; I've never used it myself, although I'm thinking now maybe I should look into it some more. :)
@OP: Bembo is my favourite face for "book" style text. I think it'd be an excellent choice. (For shorter professional documents I tend to prefer Sabon, but it may be a bit condensed for lengthy prose.)
30 Dec 2012 — 2:55am
There is a reason for some fonts having a darker texture — as Alex mentions; it makes the printed matter more comfortable to reader. I would go with Garamond, but it will take someone very experienced in typography to make it work well. If you are having trouble in choosing the right font, it's better to pay attention to what will professionals recommend. I would advise you to use either Cambria or Constantia as your main body font.