Sans Serifs ID Help please

Hi!
I need help identifying the two sans serif types below. Does anyone know?

Thanks!

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Oops, I haven't been on typophile for a while, but someone has already identified the first image for me, which is ITC conduit!

Looks like [[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/linotype/trade-gothic/|Trade Gothic (Condensed?) Bold]] to me. Other option: [[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/alternate-gothic/|Alternate Gothic no.3]]

That seems right to me too! Thanks a lot.