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brush lettering

logotype critique

Long time anonymous browser, first time poster.
I'm trying my hand at vectorizing some brush lettering for a friend, and can't seem to get an even weight through the whole mark. I think it's the "r"s? Does the "y" look too upright? That last "s" is super weird, right? Any suggestions on how to fix anything would be much appreciated! I'm finding that you have to make a lot of very purposeful decisions in Illustrator that you wouldn't notice while drawing everything an inch high in pen.
Thanks so much!

Lettering classic artists from the 50's, 60's and 70's

Good morning everyone,
First of all I want to congratulate you for this group, I have learnt a lot from all of you and your daily posts about sing painting.
I am running a research on "signs" from the 50's, 60's, and 70's, I have found a lot of classic designs of lettering in advertising but I am looking for the artists' names who created those beautiful letters. I would like to know if you can provide some information for me.
I really appreciate your help.
Kindly regards,
Felipe Calderón

Advice for designing brush- or hand-lettering


Howdy folks!
I have over the past few years tried my hand at brush-lettering or hand-lettering or whatever name this kind of style goes by. I have attached a few images for clarification. I am currently involved in another project that uses a similar style and whom better to ask than the typophiles:

In designing hand-lettering, what must one always be aware of to make it… you know… work?

The things I have so far struggled with a lot are:

  • Angles and incline
  • Stroke width
  • Connections

Regarding the incline:

Swash composition help

Okay, so I'm revamping this logo a bit and would love some assistance in creating a logo that has a bit more of a properly swashing capital letter "B".
It's all in illustrator and was began from scratch in 2007.
There it sat, finished enough for production.
Yesterday i figured it needed updating.
I've enjoyed the changes so far, but the initial swash on the B is bugging me.

If you have any tips on getting it right, ANY comments would be appreciated.
(I've used minimal bezier points forever, so that is my underlying style. Extra points dirty up the curves in my humble opinion.)

Initial design: 2007

Idea going forward (not sold on the HIGH-water "B":



John Downer Sign Painting Intensive Class at Cooper Union - March 12-14 NYC

John Downer will be in New York City to teach a weekend-long intensive sign painting class at The Cooper Union in mid March. This class will be open to the public. The class has a very limited capacity so if you'd like to attend it would be wise to book early.

Get more info or sign up http://here.

There is a nice article on John's work on a shopfront in Brooklyn on Hannes Famira's blog, the source of the image below.