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Dot Matrix/Circle pattern typefaces?

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So, I'm working on a project and have decided for conceptual reasons to use a 'dot' typeface (i.e. modular, letterforms made up of circles). The closest I have found to what I'm looking for is Perfin by Colophon (http://www.colophon-foundry.org/fonts/perfin/regular), which works because of the generous spacing between the dots (required in this project as it is to be printed at small sizes onto fabric).

I was wondering if anyone knew of any other dot-style typefaces similar to this, as I would like to try and find different options.

Circle guide technique for logotype?

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For some of my favorite identity work on Behance, I frequently see diagrams with well placed grid lines and circles such as Denis Olenik's gorgeous work for Savviva:

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Savviva-Corporate-Identity/688520

In practice, I'm struggling with how to get the shape to actually conform around these circles when using Illustrator. I thought I was decent with the pathfinder options, but when it came to actually rounding shapes, I'm struggling with having perfect accuracy for where the circle falls.

Dot font

I know the topic of dotted fonts has been on here before, mainly around the Stella McCartney logo, but could anyone please suggest any similar fonts to this logo as the Stella McCartney suggestions are not quite right! Would like a font that is not digital looking, more elegant and has as few dots as possible, as I'm looking to have it die cut so need the dots at a reasonable size.

This is probably a commissioned job that has be drawn but any font suggestions welcome.

Thanks