neo-grotesque - love some feedback and criticism


it's far from finished:

the weight between characters is still a little uneven, and some letters i'm not sure about. i was thinking of scrapping the g and starting on a two-story g (along the lines of johnston, akkurat etc.)

i started by wanting to create a grotesque striped down to its simplest form by removing unnecessary terminals.

Sometimes I wonder...

...why Arial was even created. The story goes that When Bill Gates designed Microsoft he didn't want to pay for Helvetica so he got Arial from Monotype. There are a lot of "Helveticas" out there, licenced to different companies, like Swis721 BT licenced to Bitstream. So why did Microsoft choose Arial? AND WHY DO SO MANY PEOPLE USE THIS UGLY TYPEFACE?????

What is Helvetica Medium and where did it come from???

When I use the Adobe CS programs on a PC and I am trying to use Helvetica, what looks like the standard roman version of Helvetica is labeled as Helvetica Medium? But when looking to see if Helvetica Medium is a font that can be purchased online I cannot find it?
So what is Helvetica Medium? Where did it come from? and is it an actual font that can be purchased?

And no, I'm not getting this confused with Helvetica Neue 65 Medium, I understand that they are separate typefaces.

Any thoughts???

Hinting, Helvetica, Nimbus Sans and CSS


Firstly, let me preface the post by saying that I am a complete newbie at everything pertaining to fonts, type, css or design, so please, be gentle.

The story thus far is as follows:

I'm designing a web page for a few friends (and myself), so that we have something (anything) online until our organisation has the funding to get a better page up and running. Luckily, I'm not doing the coding, a friend of mine is.

George Lois Commandment #2: The Creative Act.

We just released the second in our series "The Ten Commandments of George Lois." The quotation reads The creative act, the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything. When I first approached George about collaborating, this was his immediate suggestion and remains one of his more celebrated statements.

My favorite quote of his, "Great ideas can't be tested. Only mediocre ideas can be tested" was the first release in the series.

A portion of the proceeds from sales of this shirt will benefit the Herschel Levit scholarship fund at Pratt Institute, Mr. Lois' alma mater.

Geography meets typography


The world in words. Starting as an experiment, it turned out to be an exciting product. Finally available here: http://www.typomaps.net

The Typomaps are awarded with the IF Design Award and are nominated for the Design- award of the Federal Republik of Germany 2011.

The Typomaps are handset, and not automatically generated by computer program. Thereby we achieved an astonishing closeness to the conventional worldmap. For the type-interessted people: we used the font „Helvetica Neue Black Condensed“.

Typographic quote - meanings

I've been looking at typographic quotes, some from the forums on here, and just wondered if anyone could expand on the meaning of the one that attracted me the most?

"Helvetica is the typeface for a deserted island" - Friedrich Friedl

I'm asking just so I can get my head around the understanding of the quote, would be great if anyone could emphasise the meaning of this to me!


Corporate font for digital / interactive / branding agency.

I am looking for a nice and modern sans serif for my company. Any suggestions?

The following fonts I like, but they are just not it..

Helvetica (Duah)

FF Max
Soho Gothic
Neo Sans

Maybe something with digital/tech like rounded corners like barrister (only without the clumsiness :P)

Would you sell this on Etsy?


This is a birthday greeting card I have recently designed for my sisters birthday. After it's success in my family I have decided to screen print copies in black and red as below, possibly variations using other colours too, which I will then put up for sale on www.etsy.com at a price of £4.00 or there about.

Before I do this though I wanted to get your opinions, would you buy this greeting card for a friend or family? (The small type in the corner of this card would not be included as it was specific to my sister's birthday only).

Let me know what you think :)

(Note: the small tear on this card would not happen when silk screened, it was due to hand crafting the red using masking tape and acrylic)

(x) Old Helvetica cut? - Scandia {self (Stian S)}

This is most likely some form of Helvetica, but i can't seem to find any information on it. It looks more or less like a cross between Helvetica Neue + Railway Alphabet + Akzidenz Grotesk.. I know it was used quite extensively across the Norwegian railway network in the 80's, and i can recall seeing it in print in magazines from the same decade.

Most people would probably pass it for a regular Helvetica cut, but i know it isn't (just have a look at the lower case 'a' and 's').. I've seen numbering as well, though i can't find any examples; all i know is that the numbers look even more like Akzidenz, though not quite..

I reckon it looks perfect for signage, so I would really like to know if it exists in digital form. Any help would be appreciated :)

Helvetica knockoffs


Hey everyone!

I have currently been looking for Helvetica knockoffs, and am not entirely sure that I've come upon what I exactly need.

As we all know, Arial is the obvious villain in this situation. However, other than Arial, what type faces are a direct knockoff of Helvetica?

I've got: CG Triumvirate, Pragmatica, Swiss 721, Nimbus Sans, Helv/MS Sans Serif, and Newhouse DT. Now, these are all clearly influenced by Helvetica, but are they also considered knockoffs?

Also, I was told by someone, fleetingly (hence the forgetfulness), that there is another typeface in existence that is also a direct knockoff of Helvetica. Described vaguely as having portions of Helvetica removed to create it. Anyone have an idea as to what it is?

Thanks in advance. :)

Gotham overload? Tumbl with me about it!


Hi Typophiles,

As they say on NPR, "long time listener, first time caller." I have humble idea for a single-purpose Tumblr and I though some folks from the community might be amused enough to join me in curating it. The working title is, "Gotham is the New Helvetica," but that's a pretty bad title and you can do better. The idea is simple:

In this post-racial, post-serif Age of Obama, I see Hoefler & Frere Jones' Gotham everywhere. Like, everywhere. You do, too. Sometimes the application makes sense, sometimes it doesn't. But the point is: "seriously, that's a lot of Gotham."

Geometric/Humanist Sans


Good evening fellow typophiles,

My name is Paul Cooley, I am third year student of Graphic Design at OTIS College of Art and Design. I have recently delved into the world of type design and am absolutely in love. The typeface below is an attempt to combine the languages of Geometric and humanist sans serif typefaces, especially focusing on attributes of Gill Sans, Futura, Akzidenz Grotesk, and Helvetica. I wanted to treat this as a sort of "dream team" of different attributes that I feel work the best in these examples and try and synthesize them into one cohesive face.

Prove you know Helvetica

Hi all typography lovers!

I'm a new comer here, and I hope to tell you guys about the iphone app we've finished that's called Helvetication.

My friend Andrew as an graphic/typopgraphy designer himself, always wants to challenge his designer friends about helvetica, but really can't find a good looking one or one that is appealing to him.

We came up with a simple and elegant app that lets you compete with your friends, and also see how well you actually know helvetica (vs arial).

It's only 99 cents, but it's really a lot of fun! and I hope you guys can just try it out

Also please tell us anything we can improve on, as we are going to do upgrades soon and I really hope you all are happy. Thanks!


Styling Helvetica for Tattoo?


A co-worker of mine is getting a tattoo this week. Her name is "Tiffany" and she's looking to get just the world "beautiful" on her arm. She's really liking the absence of style that Helvetica provides. However, she'd really like to style the "tif" part in the word a bit different as it's part of her name.

We played around with a few ideas, such as making it light, but nothing really felt right because it sits in the middle of the word and seems to break up the consistency that Helvetica provides in the first place.

Anyone have any good recommendations on how to style that part of the word different in such a way that still looks great? Or maybe any examples of signs/posters where they've done something similar that has looked great?

E. Spiekermann sent me some scans of the original Neue Helvetica brochures.

Hey everyone, I am sure that some of you will like this: I wrote an article about Neue Helvetica on my blog and then Erik Spiekermann joined in (as he was a design consultant for the face) and things got awesome. Today he emailed me some scans of the original marketing materials from the 80's. You can download and view them from the article's comments section. I hope you like it.