Valentino's clothing labels??

Hi. I'm looking for helpful feedback about my direction, both in choosing and adapting Freehand521 for a start-up clothing company.

I've searched high and low to try and identify this typeface, with no luck at all...

I love the design of the sans-serif in the "next" clothing logo and would love to find the typeface used or a near substitute to use in my art potfolio

here's the logo with lower and (I presume in the same typeface) uppercase:

http://www.ukherd.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/NextDirLogo_071.jpg

if anyone has any ideas please let me know, thanks

Any idea?

Hey, i was just wondering if anyone would know what the typeface is used on the Urban Outfitters website. It would be a great help....

http://www.urbanoutfitters.co.uk/

THANKS!