Orsay

Search font from Rugby Union Clubs Logo

Hi everyone,

I'm looking for fonts from two Rugby union Clubs Logo. Excerpts are those are attached
The first one is from Rennes ERC, I really don't know what font it is.
The second one is from CA Orsay, it's some kind of mix of Cooper Black and Clarendon (but shapes from C, O, R seem to be different)

Regards,
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