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Origin of some Roman and Cyrillic glyph variants?

I would like to know where certain Roman and Cyrillic glyph variants come from.

In American cursive handwriting (Roman letters, naturally):
• the "f" looks more like a print "b" than a print "f";
• the "s" does not resemble any print letter at all;
• and the "r" looks like some kind of weird mutant print "n".

In Russian cursive (Cyrillic letters):
• the "г" looks like a backward print Roman "s";
• the "д" looks for all the world like a cursive Roman "g";
• and the "т" looks like nothing so much as a cursive roman "m"!

(The cursive forms for "г" and "т" are also used in italic.)

As for "r" and "г", I wonder if the same principle is at work for both.

I have seen some of the Russian "cursive" letterforms in print, in the credits for some episodes of "Nu, pogodi!"

Fat Sans in need of critique and Cyrillic advice


Current progress:

Original post:

Here's a little project I've started recently. At present it's just uppercase: all the standard Latin (except S) plus a few Greek and Cyrillic caps I was able to start easily from Latin. There are a few alternates in there too. Any general observations are welcomed, and I'm particularly interested in the Cyrillic И. The current glyph (which is simply the alternate N reversed) doesn't feel right to me, but I can't really tell why.

Spacing is, as you can see, nowhere near complete. And no kerning is shown here.

Active Cyrillic type designers



I am looking for suggestions for expert, active type designers that have experience with Cyrillic. i.e., who are the best ones that currently accept commissions (based anywhere)? Preferably with experience creating typefaces for editorial contexts (magazine, newspaper).

I know Gerard Unger has some of his typefaces in Cyrillic and that Monotype does commissioned work. Any other names and thoughts would be appreciated.

Thank in advance for suggestions...


Correcting a glyph's hinting


I have recently purchased Quadraat Sans for use on a website and noticed it has some buggy hinting in Cyrillic glyphs at 17 px size. And I am just not going to use a different size.
That is, horizontal stems of letters "э", "з", "є", "н" are pixel lower than they should be — a really crucial detail in a Cyrillic font. And it ruins this font.

So I want to correct TrueType hinting of those letters. I know it's kinda illegal to do that, but that's not stealing a font or making a copycat and selling it. Just want to fix the bugs.

I have never dealt with hinting. So I had googled a lot, found some tutorials, but most of them are soo difficult to understand. TrueType hinting seems to be a mysterious process even for some of the authors of those tutorials.

Trade Gothic (Extended) in Cyrillic?

I need to create an English/Russian publication for a company using Trade Gothic font family as their corporate typeface. I've found equivalents for the Regular, Regular Italic and Bold styles on ParaType website (namely http://News Gothic) but am having difficulties finding replacements for the Extended and Bold Extended styles. Do you know any other Cyrillic typeface that could be used as a replacement to Trade Gothic, with regular and extended widths? Many thanks.

Greek Phi and Cyrillic Ef


Hi everyone,

I'm making Greek capital Phi Φ and Cyrillic capital Ef Ф.
While comparing several typefaces, I noticed that many of them include Phi and Ef designed separately.

Basically it seems that you can extend the stem beyond the baseline and Cap line for the sake of visual adjustment, and you can do it further with Phi (I've seen some inscriptions that have O part of Φ aligned to the baseline and Cap line).

But even with those which do not include extended Phi Φ and Ef Ф, they are still designed differently.
For example, Lucida Grande's Greek Phi is made slightly bolder and wider than Cyrillic Ef.

If you are aware of this issue, please tell me why they are treated that way (historical or practical reasons behind it), and the problem of using identical outline.

cyrillic+latin Serif for Magazine


Hi there,

I'm looking for nice serif for a magazine.
It's a Magazine about Cars so the Serif should not be to sweet :)
It's published in several languages:
+ Russian

(also in Japanese, Chinese and Korean, but this is another problem but don't hold back)

Can anyone recommend a good latin+cyrillic serif?
I liked Arnhem and Albertina but don't know if they work.

I would be very happy if anyone could help!!

Rosetta Type Foundry

Rosetta is an independent foundry, created by David Březina, Jose Scaglione and Veronika Burian, with a strong focus on multi-script typography. It is a response to the increasing interest and need, within the global market, for multi-script typefaces that are both technically and aesthetically of the highest standard. Rosetta is committed to promoting research and knowledge in that area and to support excellence in world script type design.

Seeking good, condensed handwritten font with Cyrillics


Hi, all.

I'm seeking a nice/good/usable, reasonably condensed handwritten font which includes Cyrillic characters.
Having a good level of readability at smaller sizes would also be a bonus (allowing for longer strings within limited title space — hence condensed).

Examples of what I mean by 'nice/good/usable'…
Nothing too scrawly. No classic/classical scripts.


^^ Suomi Hand Script would be a great choice if it had Cyrillics chars.

Many thanks for any recommendations y'all can share.

Rosetta Type Foundry announcement


Rosetta Type Foundry announced (Press release)
Strong focus on multi-script typography

Brno, Czech Republic (February 2011) The new independent type foundry Rosetta released its website (www.rosettatype.com) and online store on January 2011. The foundry intends to provide typefaces for new and rapidly growing markets that require special language support for particular orthographies, languages and writing systems.

Rosetta was created by David Březina and the prolific duo responsible for the successful foundry TypeTogether (www.type-together.com), Veronika Burian and José Scaglione. The three Co-Founders are graduates of the University of Reading, which has a long standing tradition of research in non-latin typography.

Cyrillic glyph kerning


I'm seeking some advice on kerning of Cyrillic glyph afii10093, picture attached. My question is: Since it's made up of two separate 'mini-glyphs', should it be kerned as two glyphs or one? That is, should the spaces either side equal the space in between the two sections, or be larger (so that the glyph appears more as a unfied whole)?

(x) A Cyrillic (Ultra?) Condensed - PT Reforma Grotesk {Florian}

I'm fascinated by the numeral 4 in this publication, but I can't identify what the typeface is. I've checked the usual suspects, but unless there's some kind of opentype alternate glyphs hiding in some variant of Trade or the like, I've no idea what it is. It's the face 14 and 58 are set in here (rather fond of the 8 too). There are more pictures of the whole thing here: http://qus-qus.com/projects/28/orekhprom