I have quite 'weird' problem with my font. For some reason one kerning pair (as far as i know) is not working in Adobe CS3 software (indesign, photoshop etc.). Still its perfectly fine in numerous other softwares (MS Word, NeoOffice, Linotype fontexplorer etc.). The problem appears both in "class kerning" and "flat kerning mode".

The problematic kerning-pair is "Va" so it's too visible in display sizes to ignore.

I've attached detailed picture comparing the pair "Va" and "VA" in multiple softwares.

I hope someone knows something similar and can help me on this.


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Using opentype for a family

I was wondering is it possible to have several weights and their italics of a particular typeface built into one .otf file. In the same manner that stylistic sets are used to have alternative characters for certain glyphs could this be used to house an entire family?



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Some languages have problems with f-ligatures. One example is German, where ligatures across Wortfugen can be a source of confusion; another is Turkish, in which the dotless ı requires special treatment.

Have there been any efforts to identify (and compile a list of) such problems, and is it considered good practice to code those exceptions as language-specific OpenType alternates? Say, "ligatures for dflt, no ligatures for german"? Or would that go against users' expecations? How well are such features implemented in software at all?

Another solution, of course, is a Linotype ("Sabon") f, but you know, I do have a thing for nice fi and fl ligatures :)

Hi crowd,

I've been designing a few caps features for one of my text typefaces. Think of the Van Krimpen hyphen, and of course height-adjusted parens, middots, endash and emdash (with hopes of making cap-specific tabular numerals too — one day!). Question is, how do I go about naming them? hyphen.alt is too vague and might clash at some point. hyphen.caps? I was looking for examples, but after ten minutes in the Adobe specification site, I threw in the towel. Is there a convention?

Edited title to reflect proper nomenclature; post left intact to keep the thread sensible.

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I have a stylistic alternates in my opentype values, but for some reason the opentype panel in Photoshop/Illustrator will not toggle them. The interesting thing is, the glyph window in Illustrator reads them fine, but toggling the alternates in the opentype window does nothing. In order to select an alternate, it has to be done via the glyph window.

Has anyone ever experienced this, any ideas what is causing this?

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I am trying to produce a scaleable dot-based font family in Fontlab as Mac flavoured Opentype. I’ve had a lot of trouble with getting small circles to be geometrically correct in Truetype (the beziers flatten the arcs) but Opentype keeps them geometrically consistent.

However, I have a bigger problem which I can't seem to fix.


So I am starting a book project for which I am using a very complete and well designed typeface, the files are .otf. I thought .otf meant OpenType and that's it, I just discovered the different OpenType flavored types, which I don't quite understand yet, anyway, not the point...

So I checked and my typeface is an OpenType (Postscript Flavored).

Now... I am using the Book weight, which contains all the basic characters, but not the ligatures. For the ligatures, there is the Book Alt version, which contains all the nice ligatures that I would like to use in my text treatment...

From what I understand, OpenType would contain everything in one font file, these flavored things do not, because of the 256 glyphs limit, right?

Robin is a dingbats font in OpenType format that allows you to compose easily an infinity of arrows thanks to a logical use of the keyboard: as long as you want, as sharp as you want, as simple or decorative as you want.

Trying to learn more about features, focusing on the kerning feature at the moment.

In another post Jens Kutilek kindly offered the following feature as a suggestion to a problem I was trying to solve (

feature kern {
script grek;
language dflt;
pos space <50 0 100 0>;
} kern;

What I'm wondering about is the script and language statements. I've read about them a bit on Adobe's site but, admittedly, will have to back and revisit to better understand. One thing I didn't see is how these statements get used or activated.

[Cross-posted with the UAFDKOML group]

I'm starting to receive some questions about features not working in InDesign CS5 when a non-Latin language or "No Language" is selected. And this is happening with fonts that worked fine in CS3 and CS4.

From the cases I've seen, the bugs were in the fonts. More specifically, the feature file code lacked languagesystem declarations. Regarding InDesign CS5, what I can tell you is that this version is more strict than CS3 and CS4 were in terms of dealing with language and script tags. So if the fonts don't have lookups for all the necessary languagesystems, ID CS5 will just stick to what's in the font rather than creating them on-the-fly, like CS3 and CS4 used to do.

Is "LeFrancois" a typical french type?
With 3 ranges of capitals, this sans serif font is really smart!
This OpenType font contains 350 glyphs (alternative lettres, ligatures, old style figures, etc.) more than 6000 kernings...

I have this lookup for ordinals. It works OK for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc., and for Caps, 1ST, 2ND, 3RD, etc., but not for ordinals in French or Spanish, which use one or three ordinals e.g. 2º or 1ème.

How can I change my code to cater for one or more alpha characters after the digits? One to three superscripts would be OK, but I think one or more would be more flexible.

feature Ordinals ordn {
lookup Ordinals;
group @Digits [zero-nine];
group @Alphas [A-Z a-z];

lookup Ordinals{
context (@Digits) @Alphas @Alphas;
sub 0 Super;
sub 1 Super;
} lookup Super {
sub [A-Z] -> [uniEAA1 - uniEABA];
sub [a-z] -> [uniEAC1 - uniEADA];

I am using OpenType Compiler.

What would be the best/smart/easy way to transform an OT font that is fully featured and has several stylistic variants, into separate fonts for each feature, while still maintaining the kerning pairs etc.?

For example if an OT font has the standard latin characters + small caps + titling characters + alternates... to have the SC and Titling as standalone functional separate fonts.

What would be a good way to do do that?

LeFrançois is a typeface in OpenType format based on 3 series of capitals.
It seems to be classical but some glyphs show that it's not so conventional.
It's seems to be a typical French type, that's why its name is LeFrançois (with the accent please !)
With a particular work on kerning (about 5000 !) and ligatures, you'll be able to compose words as logotypes thanks to capitals and small caps.
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Does anyone know of an application for Linux that lets me use OpenType features? I'm thinking alternate forms, swashes, dicretionary ligatures.

I would like to migrate from using windows to linux, all the things I do I can do in Inkscape and Scribus, but the OT features would be a nice touch. I'm open to learning TeX or any other piece of software as long as it's usable.


I'm trying to set up a contextual multiple substitution (one-to-many), but FOG 5 keeps choking on the feature file and won't generate a font. The same substitution works in VOLT for TrueType OpenType fonts, although the substitution works only in Microsoft programs, and not in Adobe programs.

In VOLT, I was able to set up the substitution as:

    comma -> special_glyph comma -- when preceded by -- glyph_group

Now I'm trying to use it in a feature file (based on Adobe specs) for generating a CFF OpenType font in Fontographer 5.

Here's the basic syntax for an Adobe spec feature file:

    sub [ @Glyphclass ] comma' by specialglyph comma;

Now that webfonts are supported by all major browsers, more and more professional fonts are available for web linking. These fonts usually contain a large set of OpenType features, which are only accessible in OpenType-savvy applications like InDesign, Illustrator or QuarkXPress. Browsers have barely supported such advanced typographic features so far. But with the latest Beta of Firefox 4 this is about to change …

see also:

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OpenType myths explained

OpenType ist the standard font format of these days. But even 14 years after its introduction, many users don’t really know what the term OpenType implies and how it differs from other font formats. Since I use the domain for my weblog, I thought it is time to shed some light on this confusing subject …

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beginer opentype troubles

This is my first attempt at creating an open type font in font lab 4. i thought i would start with the simplest feature i could think of, but already having trouble. any idea what i am doing wrong???

thanks in advance to any kind soul who is willing to help!


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i read some time ago that it is possible (and legal) to extract special opentype features from a licensed adobe font and create a (ttf?)-font that could be used in applications that do not support opentype (like office word).

to make things more practical: i would need for a client three weights of hypatia sans (e.g. light, regular, bold) in the stylistic set 1 (no serifs) both itallic and normal and additionally in the stylistic set 13 (unicase).

any ideas if this would work, who could do this and what costs i would have to face?

gerhard donauer

I created a font for a school assignment a while ago, and I'm having a little trouble with Open-Type in order to make it work properly.see the font here:
Since the typeface uses shoes as characters, I needed it to be like this:
Right foot, Left foot,Right foot, Left foot,Right foot, Left foot,

At first I just put all the right feet in uppercase glyphs and left feet in lowercase glyphs, so you needed to type ThIs WaY to make it work (not the best solution, but I had a tight deadline). Now I am trying to find an open-type solution to make it look right regardless of how you write, but I'm not sure about which open-type feature I should use.
I am a bit of a noob at Font Lab, so any help would be appreciated.

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