I am thinking of using 1 Cor 13:13 ("And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.") in the original Greek for an engraving on wedding rings. Here is an initial attempt:

My questions are:
- The font is GFS Neohellenic. It seems to me that a serif font would be less legible at such a tiny size as a wedding ring requires. Do you have any other suggestions?
- Apparently, there is no kerning in GFS Neohellenic. I think I should add negative kerning for the |ΓΑ|, |ΑΥ|, and |ΟΥ| pairs. How big should the kerning be? Are any other pairs jarring?
- Is the word spacing in the first line not too loose?
- Is the leading good?
- Is there anything else that could be improved?

I started looking for help on this in December. I tried What The Font, a message board that is related to the subject (firearms), a message board that has a fair number of graphic artists, and also the manufacturer. Just recently I was told about this forum so I figured I'd give it another go.

So I've got a gun part. It came already engraved as seen in the first attached picture "OrigEngraving", and I would like to add my own engraving in the same font. The engraving company I have contacted for the job said they can do any TTF font.

I am writing to ask anyone interested in engraving, and those who participate in "social media" to help spread the word about my new kickstarter project to fund the West Coast book tour for The Complete Engraver.


The rewards are pretty juicy:

- Jessica Hische's new font, Minot (Jessica's a young, hot design diva)
- Be a member of the VIP team for the engraving day at the International Printing History Museum in carson, CA
- Beta test and be the first 5 to get the new engraving app being developed
- Get the first ever engraving app we are developing after in launches
- Engraved, custom monogram notes.

hello everyone !! i'm new here. here's my first font basingstoke
Basingstoke is old fashioned typeface. inspired by old letterheads from the 19th century.
Find out more:
some preview:

thanks !!

I'd like to know the background from the typefaces used in (hand engraved) music scores. I have looked at the text faces for setting titles, lyrics, tempi and dynamics. Music symbols is another interesting subject, since there is a great decline in typographical standards when comparing computer scores to traditional scores. There is no digital music symbol font that I know of that has attention to all the details that you would find in an engraved score.

The New York Times covers Nancy Sharon Collins’ The Complete Engraver, her book about all things engraved (though its written as if both MOMA and Clinique are active clients—which they are not—correction forthcoming ... ).

Help support the book tour (2 days remaining), it underwrites a four city, east coast book tour, commencing in September when The Complete Engraver hits book shelves.

Hi, I have a gig coming up in Rome...the last time I was there, one of my colleagues had some super-nice calling cards engraved at a famous, old printing/engraving place...she said it's called Barberieni, and it's located close to the House of State...

I've looked and googled everywhere and cannot find anything about it online, which seems to be not uncommon for Italian places of commerce ;)

Any Roman designers here (or designers who know Rome) who may know more about this place and where they are located, exactly?


“The Complete Engraver” is now up on Mohawk Fine Paper's Felt & Wire:


I'm looking for typefaces similar to this engraved type in the New York Public Library.

Engraving workshop this Friday. This is a breezy overview of what is contemporary, commercial "engraving".

Friday, March 18 @ 6:00pm
Loyola University New Orleans
Media Room 1
Monroe Library

(This workshop was also recently given at)
Tuesday, March 1 @ 5:00pm
Southeastern Louisiana University)

Each workshop will include:

• what is engraving and why do we love it.
• historic specimens of weird and fantastic engraving.
• contemporary applications for engraving.
• how to prepare art for engraving, and the various kinds of "engraving".
• how to engrave...
• ...or, how to work with an engraver (so you just have to design and leave the engraving to somebody else.)

Posted earlier this week, a new monogram story http://www.feltandwire.com/2011/01/25/monograms-a-la-modern/ including our copper photo-engraved plates, hand cut, 1/2" steel dies and sets of engraved monogram notes.


Our copper-engraved monograms are created in Illustrator based on a rudimentary gridded template that had been converted by an engraver from the original pantograph Masterplate system that goes back to the 1930s.

Notice that some of the monogram styles pictured in the (fuzzy—sorry, hand held iPhone) photo above are the very styles in the letterpress types at the beginning of the article.

The caption from a portrait engraving dating to around 1860.

Can anyone help identify this face please? Many thanks

Can anyone help me find a typeface that would suitably replace the one used in this beuatiful 17th Century engraving of a stellar atlas by the astronomer Johannes Hevelius:


more from the collection here:


Any help will be appreciated

Hi, everyone. I'm a longtime lurker but now I have a type ID questions so I thought I'd ask the board. I'm doing a project for class where we had to find a monument in NYC with type on it and identify as best we can.

I'm looking to identify this typeface engraving. I think it looks a little like Trajan but a little more condensed and smaller serifs. It was engraved around 1975 and it is across the street from the UN building in New York City in Ralph Bunche Park.

Any help or nudges in the right direction would be very much appreciated.

thought it was interesting that a san serif, and such a blocky one was chosen for a statue erected in the mid 19th century.... anyone know any fonts it looks like its based on ? the x height is throwing me off...

Saturday, October 16 at 2:00 pm
Session IV, Panel 3

“Engraving: Letterpress’s Shy Sister”

The American Printing History Association
35th Annual Conference
Corcoran College of Art + Design
Corcoran Gallery of Art, 500 Seventeenth St. NW
Washington, DC


(This presentation was first given at ATypeI in Dublin, September, 2010, http://www.atypi.org/03_Dublin/40_timetables/main/main12sept_html?date=2...)

This just in from Mohawk Fine Papers, Felt & Wire:

"[Tom Biederbeck] Nancy Sharon Collins thinks the time has come to revive a useful asset for our letter library: mourning stationery. Collins, a designer, researcher and writer about paper and print, says mourning stationery was intended to help the bereaved adapt to a new role in society. I asked her about her interest, how mourning stationery functioned graphically, and how it might have relevance for our time."


Along with technology, the tradition for store-bought notes of sentiment are ever changing, read all about it on Mohawk Fine Paper's Felt & Wire news blog http://www.feltandwire.com/?p=10246

(And, you can purchase this amazing, hand engraved "Thank You" card here: http://www.feltandwireshop.com/products/312-gilded-thank-you

New article about what is engraving for print application, and, specifically, for the stationery trade in the U.S.


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Funky Fifties Type

Engraved cocktail invitation type taken from a vintage invitation and re-purposed:


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